So were do we go from here?

[Guest]

It's a real eye opener that KG was 5-19 and we

still lost.JT was most responable for the loss.

Not only his shooting,but he let a crackhead

like Troy Hudson school him.Not to mention he

done a less than steller job at the point tonight.

His defense was horrible....the lead was cut to

7 and he stood there and watched as Troy Hudson

blew by him for a easy layup.Not to mention JT

missed several important shots and he hasn't

be clutch at all this year and really hasn't had a

good start despite what the stats say.JT obviousally

doesn't have the winning desire he has claimed or

he wouldn't have allowed that easy layup to happen.

That was disgusting.Minnesota came off a back to

back and right now has a team that lacks talent

with both Wally and Brandon not playing,however

they came in a played a Hawks team that have

no fire.

Right now I'd offer JT 5 million at the most.He

doesn't deserve more than that right now.

[Diesel]

Well you gotta offer JT more than the Middle Class E. I would give him 6 million to start on a 7 yr deal with team options in the 3rd and 5th yr.

How did SAR matchup against KG?

[Guest]

KG can have terrible games and still find

ways to make impact.He draws so much

attention.

All JT is worth at the current time is the middle

class.His shot has been aweful and inaccurate.

Big Dog and Shareef both had bloated stats in

the game and neither we able to effect the out

come.Big Dog had a nice 4th period when the

game was near out of reach.But were was he

before the game became a blow out?

[jaywalker72]

[swolehawk2]

This is pathetic the guy has a bad game and people want his head...no one says shitz when he is knocking down jumpers and keepin us in games....everybody has bad games...Kobe >.KG...everybody. The TEAM didn't come out with any energy thats why they got down by 25 ...that was not JTs fault....it is not JTs fault that when we cut it to 11 and had the MO Kruger started the 4th with one starter on the floor...that was not JTs fault. U so called fans can't live and die with game 11 ....it is a long season.

Email and Newble should never be on the floor together period.

[chillzatl]

The loss was lons fault, not JT's. ARR just likes to whine and point fingers. To this point it's been shareef and big dog. But since they had the good games last night, he has to point his finger at JT. pathetic aint it?

[Guest]

He had a bad game,but allow Troy Hudson to blow

by you for a easy layup in the manner he did was

sickening.Lets face it,to you guys we have a bunch

of superstars that can do no wrong.The players are

a god in your eyes.Your just like those [censored] Braves

fans who full the"everything is ok"crap.Get over it!You

know that was horrible.Quit being stupid fans you

know he allowed that guy to blow right by him on

defense.That was terrible.

Bit I forgot,the players are a god according to you

guys.Don't say anything bad about them are you

are crying.They are so great.That's why our record

is so good.[censored] it's better than before right?That's

all that matters?

Your never going to get it.

Btw,Big Dog got toasted on defense and pushed around

by a scrub like Gary Trent on defense.And Shareef was

not a factor in the 4th period as always.

[chillzatl]

haha, you are a funny guy.

Who cares if someone says something bad about them? There is a big difference in complaining about a loss and the crying you do. You whine and cry about every little thing and never bother to recognize the good. Big dog puts up 33 and almost pulls us back into the game. To most people that was good. To you it's inflated stats that were made when the game meant nothing. That's chumpish.

Most people would try to be educated about their negativity. But you don't even bother. Shareef was a "non factor" in the 4th, even though they didn't throw him the ball at all because big dog was hot. But that's all Reefs fault, he just sucks.

keep your eye out for teh waaaahmbulance, it's on its way.

[Guest]

Who cares if someone says something bad about them? There is a big difference in complaining about a loss and the crying you do. You whine and cry about every little thing and never bother to recognize the good. Big dog puts up 33 and almost pulls us back into the game. To most people that was good. To you it's inflated stats that were made when the game meant nothing. That's chumpish. "

Big Dog score....his man scores......Big Hog scores....His

man Scores...

We also did this.....we almost did that....but what didn't

come back.

[Traceman]

First of all, Big Dog guarded KG for most of the game. Reef was on Trent. Big Dog played a [censored] of a game and if Lon hadn't sat him at the beginning of the 4th, he might have brought us all the way back.

Second, Reef scores 23 points on 8-13 shooting, grabs 11 boards and dishes out 6 assists while being guarded by one of the best one on one defenders in the NBA for most of the game and you STILL criticize him? You don't know anything about basketball.

Third, yes JT had a tough game but one bad game doesn't make him a bad player. Besides, if he has 17 pts, 8 assists and 0 turnovers in his bad games, I'll take that all day. You can call Troy Hudson a scrub all you want be he can score. He was actually leading the Wolves in scoring until Wally Z can back and he's still averaging almost 16 ppg despite being the 3rd option. JT didn't play well on defense last night and he didn't shoot well but I'll guarantee you that he will have a lot more good games than bad.

Your whining, crying and badmouthing is sad. Does it make you feel better to sit back and spout all this negative BS about people who don't give a [censored] about you because they don't even know you exist? How pathetic.

[Guest]

I turned the game off when the lead got up to

like 17 and didn't turn it back on til the 4th

period.

"Second, Reef scores 23 points on 8-13 shooting, grabs 11 boards and dishes out 6 assists while being guarded by one of the best one on one defenders in the NBA for most of the game and you STILL criticize him? You don't know anything about basketball."

he was not a factor when he was needed the most.You

don't seem to understand the difference.How is it so

f***in hard to understand the difference?The law of

averages says the game will be close more often than

not.So you need guys that are willing to step up when

really needed and Shareef NEVER does that.Vancouver

fans knew it and your too stupid to know the difference.

"Besides, if he has 17 pts, 8 assists and 0 turnovers in his bad games"

It's not hard to have 17 points when you shoot 21

times...ask Walker.1-9 in three's?He done a poor

a** job of managing the game.

There was a couple of times when Big Dog was matched

up on Gary Trent and Trent just pushed Big Hog right

out of the way.

"You can call Troy Hudson a scrub all you want be he can score. He was actually leading the Wolves in scoring until Wally Z can back and he's still averaging almost 16 ppg despite being the 3rd option."

There is no excuse for allowing the crackhead to get

easy layups.

Simply put he is not worth the contract he is asking for...

what is he shooting for the year??35%?

[pathway23]

Actually Hotlanta Dude, JT's efficiency was alright - 17 points on 17 shot attempts. He did not attempt 21 shots. While JT's shot selection was poor - Kruger called the plays that got him his shots, which were mostly good looks that he hits. This loss was totally Kruger's fault. It had nothing to do with the players. The blame for this loss lies squarely on Kruger's no-brain rotations and playcalling. He put the 2nd unit in all at the same time, he did not leave one of the big 3 scorers on the floor for his substitutions in the 2nd and 4th which cost us the game. As soon as the Wolves made it a 10 point deficit, Reef should have been put into the game and Lon should have made calls for Reef to post up and score right in the teeth of that zone, or draw fouls. Instead, Lon waited until the lead got to 20. And on from there.......

[Guest]

While coaching was alot of the problem the excuses

are growing old..."We could have won....but"

1-9 in three's is not good because he shouldn't

be taking that many 3's in the first place.

His shooting is almost forgiveable.....but that

that easy layup is not.If a player is willing to

give that up in the that position he doesn't

want to win badly enough.JT has a big problem

with fundamentals and playing defense on key

plays.

[swolehawk2]

Almost all those threes were wide open threes...threes he hits 5 out of 6 nights... if the shot is there and u are down by double digits u have to take it especially against a zone.

[Traceman]

He HAS to take the shot when he's open from deep, particularly when we're down by 20+ points. His shot was just off last night. He even missed 3 free throws out of 9 and that NEVER happens. Even though he was off, JT HAD to keep shooting because we were WAY down and he is our best 3 point shooter by far. What was he supposed to do, pass up the open shot and kick it around to Ira? Besides, he probably took 5 of those 9 3's in the late 3rd and 4th quarters. JT had a bad game. It happens. I'm sure that he will come back strong and I'm sure he will be a big reason that we win on a lot of nights.

[Traceman]

You said:

"he was not a factor when he was needed the most.You

don't seem to understand the difference.How is it so

f***in hard to understand the difference?The law of

averages says the game will be close more often than

not.So you need guys that are willing to step up when

really needed and Shareef NEVER does that.Vancouver

fans knew it and your too stupid to know the difference"

When was he needed most last night and what did he fail to do that makes him the blame for the loss? Is it his fault that he did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do by catching the ball in the post and kicking it out to the open shooters? He didn't miss all those open 3's, JT, Big Dog and Dion did. [censored], if JT and Dion could have made shots, Reef would have had a triple double. It's funny how Reef had a better game than KG and yet he gets blamed for the loss. KG's supporting cast stepped up to help him by knocking down shots and Reef's didn't. That's a big reason that we lost the game.

You say JT did a poor job of managing the game and yet he had 8 assists and ZERO turnovers. His management of the game was not the problem, his inability to knock down a wide open 3 was. He also had a bad defensive game. It happens. He'll be back and he'll be as good as ever.

JT is worth every penny that Mike Bibby is worth. He may not be a max player but he's worth a long term, big time deal. Good thing the only time you're a GM is on your PS2 or in a fantasy league. Since you think the Hawks are all so pitiful, I suggest that you stop watching them and go back to your fantasy world on the PS2 where everything is wonderful.

[BlackHawkDown]

You are all arguing about nothing. Give it a while. I dont lose sleep when the Hawks lose.

[Nurlman]

Amen, brother. Calm down. And how JT's 1-9 and a 15% shooting second quarter are Lon's fault, I have no idea. That's a big, long stretch. The team had a bad game. Period. Move on.

[Traceman]

One bad game in and 82 game season is not the end of the world. I just get sick of ARR's whiny, crybaby nonsense.

[Inside_Man]

The score in the 2nd quarter was 33 to 12 we lost - we won the other 3 quarters 81-70.

Here's my idea. Sit Lon for the 2nd quarter. Let Gar or somebody else takeover for 12 minutes. This'll work.