Guest Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 A good basketball player.No wonder he averages 20PPG he takes so many shots.Does he have to shoot everytime he touches the [censored] ball?Why does he just decide to try and drive the lane?You can blame it on lack of a PG but if you simply pass it to Glenn to get some ball movement he will just try and attack the lane and turn the ball over. Even if you want Big Hog to just pass the ball around the perimeter he will just try and attack the lane.How can the other players trust a player like him?He is what is sucking the life out of the Hawks franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawkDown Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 The Hawks want to play perimeter sissyball with their new leader Big Hog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 Every teams rotates the ball around the perimeter soon.You do it to get it in the post alot of times... But Big Dog just decides to takes shots instead of rotating the ball around!He steals shots.He steals shots that are designed for other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 How many times Reef broke the zone and we couldn't get him the ball. Worse yet, if you want to break a zone, you have to dribble. If you dribble it causes the zone to disrupt. All we did was pick up our dribble. We needed to get the ball down low, and then Reef kick it back out. Shoddy play. But, it wouldn't have mattered. Anything less than an AK-47 shot to the head wasn't going to go against NJ. I have also decided Martin is my least favorite player in the league. I wish Wilks drilled him in the head when he was holding the ball up high like that. Wilks would have been an all-time favorite. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 Big Dog isn't a sissy baller he is a thief!No wonder Reef plays heartless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 Well, it is definately true that Shareef plays with more intensity all over the court if he is involved more offensively. We don't get him the ball enough. 8 shots. That is horrible. He should have 8 shots at the end of halftime or the first quarter most nights. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 8 shots???Trade Big Dogs fat rear now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 HotLantaDude, I mean, I know a lot of people don't like Shareef or feel that Shareef is All-Star material. But, he can score with the best of them. The fact that he had less shots than Terry and Robinson, and was tied with Wilks. I just don't get it. He had 11 points at halftime... then we forget about him. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 Amazing! Somehow, Glenn gets blamed for everything. He doesn't pass the ball, yet he did lead the team in assists tonight with 5. He turns the ball over too much, yet he only had 2 turnovers tonight. He shoots too much, yet he takes 19 shots. Jason Kidd took 19 shots. I guess he sucks because he shoots too much. Glenn Robinson and Shareef Abdur-Rahim should get 20 shots a night each. Jason Terry is the player that needs to shoot less and start feeding the ball to these two. The Hawks should be running an inside/outside game with Shareef and Glenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 KB21, You both are right. Big Dog should shoot a lot. But so should Reef. But, they are correct by saying that Big Dog doesn't pass the ball and steals shots. He won't continue the rotation. Instead he takes a shot. 19 shots isn't bad in and of itself... but the best scorer on the team had 8. That is an issue. Of course, GRob found Reef twice in the lane for a wide open dunk... which is more than I can say for Terry. I think GRob has been playing better, of late. But, he still saps us at times with dumb play. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 If Shareef is the best scorer on the team, then he should act like it and start taking some shots. He's got the talent, but he doesn't work for it. Sure, he works hard on his game and to keep himself in shape, but when it comes to dominating the game, Shareef naturally defers to someone else. It is up to him to step up and say, "Give me the [censored] ball". Not just say it, but start working for it. I don't think Robinson demands the ball and asks for his shot. I think Robinson knows that his role is to hit the open jumper, and regardless of what his shooting percentage says this year (which is a career low), this guy has one of the best mid range games in the NBA (a lost art). A perimeter oriented player that is a career 46% shooter is terrific. Glenn Robinson is what he is. A terrific mid range jump shooter who is one of the top rebounding small forwards in the NBA and a mediocre defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 Actually Big Hog needs to check himself in the mental hospital.He isn't even a sane person. He also got raped by Richard Jefferson.Is there any player in the NBA that couldn't abuse Big Dog one on one?Did you see Big Dog get back cut and Jefferson taking him into the lane and shoot the floater right over his head?He's a piece of crap.He's a worthless overpaid too many shot takin loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawkDown Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 ITS TIME TO STOP WHINING ABOUT THE HAWKS POOR PLAY AND START BOYCOTTING THEM. JOIN IN THE HAWKS PROTEST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 7, 2003 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 In the search for Balance amoung our shooters, JT has to be the one who gives that balance. As a PG, it's his job to make sure that both Reef and Grob get their looks. Then in the fourth quarter, one will step up and the point has to know who to feed based on the flow of the game. However, JT's mentality is not that. His mentality is worst than Sam Cassell's. JT says in his heart... "I am a scorer." Therefore, the offense falters. My hope was that a More Structured environment with set roles would help JT as a PG. However, now, I believe that Stotts and Babcock has already decided that the JT project is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 KB21, Reef DID demand the ball last night. But, they weren't able to get it to him. No matter how open he was. You give Robinson WAY too much credit. He is NOT atop rebounding SF nor is he mediocre at defence. He is a mediocre rebounder and a horrible defender. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 I agree Playmaker Shareef was demanding the ball but the hawks couldn't et him the ball. The Hawks can't handle the zone defense. They are a poor shooting team and they also don't have anyone who is able to slash to the goal to break the zone. Glover could be the guy but he seems hesitate when he gets the ball. He doesn't know whether he should take the jumper or take his man off the dribble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 Blunt, The problem with Glover is that I think you are completely correct. He only looks to score. But, in order to beat the zone, the common misconception is to take long threes and rotate it around the perimeter. That is incorrect. The basics of zone is that you aren't gaurding ANYONE. So, if someone is dribbling, you have to metamorphisize the structure of the zone. It molds and melts to try to handle the ball once it breaks into the zone. Which leads to open looks for people if they just rotate. Also, getting the ball downlow does the same thing. The zone must collapse, and that causes mid range jumpers to be open. Rotating the ball around the perimeter does nothing to break open a zone. The men just slide to the next player. Offensive perimeter passing is the poor man's, high school way of beating the zone. The real man's way is penetration and post up play, which causes the zone to collapse. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 There are only two small forwards in the entire NBA that have more rebounds than Glenn. How does that make him a mediocre rebounder? Being a small forward, averaging 7 rebounds per game is better than mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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