Swatguy Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 It seems we have played to our ceiling. Joe aint getting any better and he probably should walk. We have to move the potential "Bad contracts" ei.. Marvin and Bibby. Moving these guys will be difficult but not impossible. Not sold on Teague cause...he cant shoot. A S&T to Toronto using Bibs and Marvin as the bait could solve half of the problems. Signing Chillz and a starting PG. If Joe goes fill the void, draft a shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 It seems we have played to our ceiling. Joe aint getting any better and he probably should walk. We have to move the potential "Bad contracts" ei.. Marvin and Bibby. Moving these guys will be difficult but not impossible. Not sold on Teague cause...he cant shoot. A S&T to Toronto using Bibs and Marvin as the bait could solve half of the problems. Signing Chillz and a starting PG. If Joe goes fill the void, draft a shooter. And Woody (I have supported him)is probably gone so Welcome Byron Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzachary Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 It seems we have played to our ceiling. Joe aint getting any better and he probably should walk. We have to move the potential "Bad contracts" ei.. Marvin and Bibby. Moving these guys will be difficult but not impossible. Not sold on Teague cause...he cant shoot. A S&T to Toronto using Bibs and Marvin as the bait could solve half of the problems. Signing Chillz and a starting PG. If Joe goes fill the void, draft a shooter. Just because I love reading Diesel's posts, I'm going to be the first to reply: Marvin's contract is a good value! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Just because I love reading Diesel's posts, I'm going to be the first to reply: Marvin's contract is a good value! Marvin is horrible. Sign Ray Allen (If Joe goes) and Do sign Raymond Felton to run the show. Felton/Crawford/Teague Allen/Chillz/Mario Josh/Chillz/Mo Al/Josh Bosh/Zaza Get two big bodies and roll. Oh and Do draft a shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dragitoff Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Sign Ray Allen (If Joe goes) and Do sign Raymond Felton to run the show. Felton/Crawford/Teague Allen/Chillz/Mario Josh/Chillz/Mo Al/Josh Bosh/Zaza Get two big bodies and roll. Oh and Do draft a shooter. The 1st part comments about signing Ray Allen should be enough to negate any further comments you made, but then your suggested team was posted. Just how do you expect to clear enough money to sign Felton, Allen, and Bosh? Also, you said you weren't sold on Teague because he couldn't shoot and then you suggest to get Felton to run the team. Have you seen his career FG and 3pt %'s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crank Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I think our unwillingness to go into the LT really hampered our flexibility . When JJ turns down that extension you have to give your gm the leeway to be creative . We shouldve never offered Marvin or Bibby longterm deals but instead offered Bibby a 1 yr 11 million dollar deal and Marvin the same deal . Of course it wouldve sent us into the LT territory but now if JJ decides he is walking we can dive right into the free agent market . heck if we really wanted to do it right we would even overpay Zaza for one year as well and have the money open up to offer someone a max or near max deal along with trying to keep JJ. Those signings with the uncertainty that JJ has given us are huge shackles now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 If I'm not mistaken, those two long term deals have a "Valley" or sudden drop of income for one year before they go back up for the remainder of the contract. Next season is the "valley" year for both Bibby and MW. They make a lot more this season and all the other seasons EXCEPT next year. I'm sure this was set up and agreed to so that the Hawks might have some small amount of $$$$ to go into the free market and shop. JJ looks to be gone to NY. Wouldn't be a big shock to any of us if that happened. JJ is good. In fact, he's very good. He's an all star. He would play big in the big apple. They would love him - - - If NY had a winning team and he was a big part of the winning. Can Atlanta afford to sell out the franchise just to keep JJ here? Is he worth THAT much? If JJ is not here, does that mean that the Hawks automatically go back to their 13 win season? Or, can they play .500 ball without JJ? If JJ gats all the money, where will the Hawks come up with any money to pay any one else. Does he selfishly demand all the money? JJ is good. JJ is great. JJ is not Kobe or L. James. He does not, singlehandedly carry this team to every victory...... Apparently, the way the NBA is set up, we can pay JJ and keep him, if he accepts. If we don't and he walks, we can't spend any of that money signing another player.... Looks as if JJ has the Hawks over a barrell and they are about to be screwed either way it goes. :cant believe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 If I'm not mistaken, those two long term deals have a "Valley" or sudden drop of income for one year before they go back up for the remainder of the contract. Next season is the "valley" year for both Bibby and MW. They make a lot more this season and all the other seasons EXCEPT next year. I'm sure this was set up and agreed to so that the Hawks might have some small amount of $$$$ to go into the free market and shop. We wish ! Even if JJ signs with another team we would not be uner the salary cap enough to sign anyone. We would have the MLE and veteran's minimum only. Its JJ or bust. Crawford is the insurance policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 If I'm not mistaken, those two long term deals have a "Valley" or sudden drop of income for one year before they go back up for the remainder of the contract. Next season is the "valley" year for both Bibby and MW. They make a lot more this season and all the other seasons EXCEPT next year. I'm sure this was set up and agreed to so that the Hawks might have some small amount of $$$$ to go into the free market and shop. JJ looks to be gone to NY. Wouldn't be a big shock to any of us if that happened. JJ is good. In fact, he's very good. He's an all star. He would play big in the big apple. They would love him - - - If NY had a winning team and he was a big part of the winning. Can Atlanta afford to sell out the franchise just to keep JJ here? Is he worth THAT much? If JJ is not here, does that mean that the Hawks automatically go back to their 13 win season? Or, can they play .500 ball without JJ? If JJ gats all the money, where will the Hawks come up with any money to pay any one else. Does he selfishly demand all the money? JJ is good. JJ is great. JJ is not Kobe or L. James. He does not, singlehandedly carry this team to every victory...... Apparently, the way the NBA is set up, we can pay JJ and keep him, if he accepts. If we don't and he walks, we can't spend any of that money signing another player.... Looks as if JJ has the Hawks over a barrell and they are about to be screwed either way it goes. :cant believe: Yep, this sucks and we have to sign Al back and Al is worth max. We knew this already so it's just time to move on. Smoove is a great defensive player, Horford has amazing potential and Teague will be a good player in the future. So it's not that bad for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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