Going to the dark side

[DBac]

Brandon Jenning was awful. Yeah the personnel decisions have been pretty bad. Glad they made a step to get Bud away from those. 

[Peoriabird]

7 minutes ago, DBac said:

Brandon Jenning was awful. Yeah the personnel decisions have been pretty bad. Glad they made a step to get Bud away from those. 

And Baze was better at point?

[DBac]

 

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

And Baze was better?

What does that have to do with Brandon Jennings? Jennings was a net negative over the whole series. He's a ball stopper who takes awful shots and doesn't play defense. He'd just get killed by Satoransky or whoever Washington wanted to throw out there. 

 

Baze is bad, I don't have a problem saying that. That goes back to bad personnel decisions.

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, DBac said:

 

What does that have to do with Brandon Jennings? Jennings was a net negative over the whole series. He's a ball stopper who takes awful shots and doesn't play defense. He'd just get killed by Satoransky or whoever Washington wanted to throw out there. 

 

Baze is bad, I don't have a problem saying that. That goes back to bad personnel decisions.

Give me a second to look up Jennings stats for the series then

[Peoriabird]

11 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Give me a second to look up Jennings stats for the series then

5.5 ppg shooting 55% from the field with a 4.3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.  wouldn't  exactly call that awful

[JTB]

I'm all for the dark side! I'm not pro rebuild or pro keep maintaining what we have and add . I just want a winning franchise.

if the front office is ALL together like they should be a rebuild shouldn't take that long. 3 years top!

[DBac]

4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

5.5 ppg shooting 55% from the field with a 4.3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.  wouldn't  exactly call that horrible

I wouldn't call that the difference in the series either. He was a net negative vs us. Wasn't much better than Jose Calderon.. vs the Celtics he was so bad that Scott Brooks started cutting his time. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

For me, Get Mo Bamba, Ayton, or Porter Jr then get Zion or Bagley in 2019. At that point, we will have two franchise players to win around. Add Dennis and you got it all figured out. 

I'd really like to know what Magic Crystal 8 ball you are looking into with comments like this.  Or maybe you have this.....

What's the 'guaranteed Get' 

 

We have just completed year 3 of the vaunted can't miss  2014 draft class.  None have been exceptional.  Yes, they are still young, but their body of work so far has me underwhelmed based on expectations.

[Peoriabird]

2 minutes ago, DBac said:

I wouldn't call that the difference in the series either. He was a net negative vs us. Wasn't much better than Jose Calderon.. vs the Celtics he was so bad that Scott Brooks started cutting his time. 

He would have saved us a lot of those Baze and Howard turnovers which may have changed the series in our favor

[Guest]

Just now, Peoriabird said:

He would have saved us a lot of those Baze and Howard turnover which may have changed the series in our favor

He would have just taken a bad shot instead...6 of one,  half a dozen of the other.

[Peoriabird]

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

He would have just taken a bad shot instead...6 of one,  half a dozen of the other.

I'd rather have a bad shot than a turnover at midcourt leading to an uncontested layup which happened countless times while Baze was running point. Plus he would have led us in field goal percentage in that series

[Peoriabird]

We lost that series primarily because of turnovers

[Guest]

I  think our shooting percentages particularly from 3 was the culprit.  Didn't hit 30% in ANY game we lost.

[Peoriabird]

3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I  think our shooting percentages particularly from 3 was the culprit.  Didn't hit 30% in ANY game we lost.

That too but how many games did we have more turnovers than assist?

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

That too but how many games did we have more turnovers than assist?

2 games of the 6, the 1st 2 games in the series.

[KB21]

46 minutes ago, JTB said:

I'm all for the dark side! I'm not pro rebuild or pro keep maintaining what we have and add . I just want a winning franchise.

if the front office is ALL together like they should be a rebuild shouldn't take that long. 3 years top!

I'm sure that is what the Timberwolves thought 13 years ago.  

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I'd really like to know what Magic Crystal 8 ball you are looking into with comments like this.  Or maybe you have this.....

What's the 'guaranteed Get' 

 

We have just completed year 3 of the vaunted can't miss  2014 draft class.  None have been exceptional.  Yes, they are still young, but their body of work so far has me underwhelmed based on expectations.

You won't get an answer 'cause a truthful one won't fit their agenda.

Paging @NBASupes ....

Eta: Oh, you'll probably get a good dose of goalpost movin.

[Peoriabird]

14 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

2 games of the 6, the 1st 2 games in the series.

And had 22 in the last game.

[High5]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

Jennings was the difference in the playoff series in case you didn't notice

Please tell me you couldn't type that with a straight face.

[Peoriabird]

3 minutes ago, High5 said:

Please tell me you couldn't type that with a straight face.

In game 2 he was.  In game 2 Baze had those 4 costly turnovers running point and Jenning played well at point.