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I agree if the spurs were more athletic man they would probably be unstoppable but even then they are still a great ball club Anyways yeah if we get more athletic and run this system....you are right sir the east better watch out!!!

Seriously I want to see him play more! He looks like can be good....and I'm not just saying that I think he deserves a good amount of minutes as a backup center or pf. Which will probably keep bebe on the bench if brought over

Not true it actually takes a long time to heal a injury like that. In fact he should have probably been fully healed over the summer but he's ahead of schedule and that's the scary part. I fear he hasn't given the injury the right amount of time to fully heal! But I'm not a doctor, just repeating from what I hear personal trainers tell me about this specific injury.

Lol nobody is denying the lack of playmakers! Your argument was "when the system breaks down or when plays break down"....my response to that is if the team is running the system consistently, ain't no such thing as break down. In this spurs like offense there are multiple options always each time down the court. Notice in the first round spurs vs mavs they broke down the games they lost and were not staying with the system...that's rare to see the spurs do that but when it happens they lose games as well. I agree we need a playmaker but this team is still learning the system unlike a spurs team that knows the system.....Like coach pop says if the team plays within the system all game they will always have a chance to win.

Thanks....and yeah we definitely need a playmaker but if we don't pick one up hopefully bud and crew can develop one to where he can become a playmaker for the hawks.

I disagree....the system is proven that it creates scoring opportunities consistently all throughout the game. It's up to the players to play within the system and keep the ball moving. Our biggest problems were not having horford for the year and not having another slasher to go along with Teague. Also you have to understand that Teague has never been pushed to play aggressive like this in an offense that the ball is always in his hands so it's all new to him and it seems like he got extremely comfortable with the system at the end of the year going into the playoffs. You can't write off a team that had major injury problems and still took a number 1 seed to 7 games. I don't care what any one says bad match up or not if you are the number 1 seed you should never let an 8th seed hang around.

Lol I'm good but thanks for sharing.

I don't really care who gets good, that's where I am on all this. I want Dennis to get good if he stays a hawk and I want Teague to be better if he stays a hawk. I'm not going to argue who's better because Dennis hasn't even played yet and bud is still developing him so the argument is pointless just because of that fact: DENNIS HAS NOT PLAYED MUCH....YET....there's nothing to argue about!!!! I'm in full trust mode of ferry and bud! Bud has been running this show (system) for 19 years and I expect him to know which point guard he wants to be his Tony Parker type between Teague and Dennis. I'm waiting to judge bud and ferry decision rather than what I or other posters want at pg and that's what I care about most! At the end of the day they are picking either Dennis or Teague I don't care which....all I care about is judging ferry and bud at the end of the day on the decision they make on who's running pg.

You guys should just stop arguing with nbasupe! He's strong minded to his own opinion! I was shocked that he even gave Teague props in the playoffs when Jeff showed out. I can admit that during the season me and if I'm not mistaking @Dolfan23 were the main ones bashing Teague but the last 10 games of the season and playoffs made me forget who that inconsistent Teague was and now I just think he deserves another chance after being under buds system for one year. Anyways no need to argue with nbasupe or any other poster. The board is half on Dennis & half on Teague. Ferry/bud I'm sure will make the right call on what point they want running this team and that's all you should care about....cause I'm telling you guys this argument isn't going to end and it's pointless because Dennis hasn't even had significant minutes yet therefore until he plays as much as Teague we really don't know what Dennis is! Summer league Dennis don't mean anything to me. I want the guy to be a star but bud is still developing him and it may take 2 more years before he get on court for starter minutes.

This is where I'm leaning but many would say "oh you want us to stay mediocre!" When in reality (to me anyways) I think under coach buds system if horford, sap, Teague can work together as well as the other pieces we add/have....we are a consistent 50 win team and that's a great improvement!

This is how I feel. The hawks are a spurs like big man rotation and defensive wing creator away from 50 wins per year. You can take care of both needs this off season.

The one thing I can say about Jenkins is that as fan I wouldn't worry about his shot or ability to shoot cause he can do it no prob and he will adjust to the nba as he continues his career. But because he was injured this year without a chance to really play in coach buds system it will take him some time. Where I'm getting at is that at Vanderbilt and believe me I watched this guy closely....he never really played off ball. They set screens for him and he wouldn't drive the ball he would just run behind the screen and pull up (has a quick jumper) and that's how he led the sec in scoring 3 years! Jenkins biggest adjustment under bud will be playing off ball! He's pretty damn good at pulling up for the three off his own dribble but I'm not sure how well he's going to do this catch and shoot thing but I don't doubt that he can't do it either. (Just more of my input on Jenkins, I feel like a reliable source since I did actually watch him play college ball)

Ray Allen doesn't have that size advantage, not to compare Jenkins to Allen but it's possible to be a deadly 3pt threat without the size advantage. I rather Jenkins mold to try to be danny green type player. I watched Jenkins closely at Vanderbilt and he could handle the ball well while in college and was never a driver always a shooter. I do think he can handle the ball probably at best the same level as a Danny green. He's not a slasher but if the team sets him up the guy can shoot lights out and if he can do that off the bench then that's all we need. He's never gave anything defensively so that's not a surprise his defense is bad. Jenkins will be ok under coach bud no question about it, we just need him to stay healthy.

Good write up. I strongly agree.

Lol oh I know. I think bebe was sent back overseas to get better skill wise more than to gain weight! The nba game has changed today, you can have a smaller center in weight and as long as they are tall and they can still somehow be effective. I'm excited to see what bebe can do! From videos I have seen the kid can run the floor fast for a 7 footer and the hawks like to push the ball! Then on top if they he's just so long that his length can bother Hibbert probably! It's not like Hibbert backs you down and dunk on you, instead he backs down and tries to shoot that jump hook and a lot of players can't contest it with Hibbert being 7'3 but bebe with his length could probably contest it well and mauve even get a hand on it.

Lol I get that but even if he does get to Noah size of 230 or 235...I doubt he looks any different than what he does now. My point is, is that I don't think size affects the way bebe plays but hey I can be wrong since I don't know squat about the guy really.

@Dolfan23 it would be great if he can be the next Noah! But I noticed that so many are concerned about his weight at 220 but speaking of the comparison to Noah...isn't Noah only 10 pounds heavier than bebe at 230? If so why are people so concerned about bebes weight? I'm sure he can put on 10 pounds easily.

Exactly...but I must say if these bigger centers Hibbert, Perkins, etc. were making these smaller guys like sap, Lewis, bosh, etc pay on offensive end than I probably wouldn't have said what I said but since that's not the case like I said we need a rotation that can do it all instead of paying big bucks to one guy who's known just to protect the rim but gets abused when the floor is spread. Also I agree with the Noah comment! But he's like the only one that can defend the perimeter big well and be an anchor in the post. Gotta give the defensive player of the year props but he's the only one of his kind in the nba. When the hawks get to him and if we had a big man rotation like the spurs that can do it all, our best bet is to just ware out Noah by having him run to defend the perimeter and use horford/sap to pound him in the paint......it's all about taking Noah's energy away.

Here's the thing about this rim protector issue! 1.Spurs took ibaka completely out the game when they started Matt bonner! That's the important part of all this rim protector nonsense. Ibaka had to worry about the perimeter shot, so brooks try to put him at center to keep him around the goal and spurs decide to go one on one against him knowing they have no help defense because shooters are on the floor and the hall of famer destroys him! 2.Look at Miami...Hibbert is taken completely out the game with Lewis and bosh spreading the floor for lebron, wade, cole to attack the rim avd finish because Hibbert is too slow to recover back to the rim or they kick out cause Hibbert is too slow to close out. THIS RIM PROTECTOR STUFF IS BULLSH*T PEOPLE!!!! Hibbert and ibaka are the best two shot blockers/rim protectors in the conference finals and they are at home getting ready to watch the finals like us! WHAT THE HAWKS TRULY NEED: What the hawks need is what the spurs have and I don't mean the old hall of famer Duncan...I mean they have a big man rotation for every need! If they want to spread the floor they can bring in bonner or diaw. If they want a rim protector they got splitter and Duncan (and the other young kid). Hawks need a complete big man rotation that has guys with a special skill set cause you can't get it all in one player these days, so you need a big man rotation you can turn to like the spurs have. That's key to getting further in the playoffs! Starts with the big man rotation ends with the big man rotation.

A felon! Man that's pretty harsh! I rather we just end it right here.

There's nothing to buy into! If ferry does show interest believe me it will be shocking to most on this board. I see things a bit different and I wonder if ferry should take a risk on lance but time will tell.

This isn't surprising! Everybody think bud:ferry sign these players just to trade them. I really believe they like the players we have but their just open to options.

Nobody can really figure out ferry. Some of us think too little, some of us think too big. At the end I say ferry is going to mock the spurs best he can if they were in a position like the hawks. Basically a "what would the spurs do if they were trying to build that champ team?" is in the works with ferry and bud. We can't blame them cause that's all they know is the spurs way. They want to resemble the spurs as much as possible. (Horford has to be the best impersonation of Duncan as he can (of course he won't get to that level but he can try). DMC will need to do his best impression of Bruce Bowen. Teague will need to pick up Parker like instincts best he can. Sap is our diaw like player. Korver is our Danny Green. Its hard to figure out what moves ferry will do but it's not hard to tell what he or bud wants is my point and what he wants is a spurs like hawks team at the end of the day.

Bingo!....this will probably make many of you mad but I honestly think ferry would stay at 15 if he was guranteed saric at that pick versus a guarantee trade to get a top 3 pick! Lol

Agreed. I don't think horfords injury is that big of a deal. I am close to 2 personal trainers in my area and they both have says a freak injury like horfords come from either lifting wrong or lifting too much. Horford just need to stick with the push-ups and develop his post game! You don't have to be extremely strong to have a good post game, look at pau gasol. Last I think it's interesting how he knows about the kings rumor. Usually gms don't know about these rumors we read or they just blow off the rumors all together.