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On Ferry: If you hate ferry because of Cleveland....that's not a good reason. Completely different franchise with a completely different culture. Ferry is trying to bring the spurs system to Atlanta and it's going to take some time. In Cleveland he was under pressure to make lebron happy...I don't care what anybody tells you, some stars run organizations when they aren't happy (lebron was one of them) and not gms! More than likely ferry was pressured to make some kind of move to make lebron and owner Gilbert happy. On Bud: How are we going to judge a 17 year top assistant/right hand man of coach pop who had everything to do with Parker's all star development and the trade for Kwahi Leonard who will be the future franchise player of the spurs! How do hawk fans say I know talent but dismiss the talent ferry and bud go out to bring to ATL? We act like we have been around the NBA longer than these guys? Point is: I think hawk fans think they know talent and what fits the spurs like system better than the two guys we have in one that played in it and one who's coached it for 17 years!...17 years!....17 years!...hawksquawk do you realize how insane that is?! That's like a nba fan going out to text winter (Phil Jackson's top assistant/right hand man)...and telling him that he doesn't know what players fit the triangle offense and he should listen to us instead! That sh*t is crazy from you guys! Ferry and Bud knows talent! More importantly they know spurs talent that fit that particular system...it's not smart to dismiss these guys as if we know better!

Well that's true!....the focus should be to get a slashing wing player period weather he's a SG or SF! That's actually a great thing that works in the hawks favor when looking for that player this off season. 3 things I like about DMC: -his nickname really fits him! The junkyard dog is all hustle, all heart, all effort for 48 minutes. -his defense is solid and can be really good at times! In fact I think he will be very consistent good to great defender all next season with an even more improved jumpshot. -he can play SG or SF or.....PF! He would atleast put up the effort no matter what position you put him at and sometimes effort is enough in this league. (Not saying we should play him at PF by the way....just making a point that the junkyard dog isn't a quitter)

Not being sarcastic when I say this is brilliant! I love it! Only problem is that too many hawk fans wanting afflalo isn't showing me a realistic way of getting him. I mean the guy is on a fantastic contract at 7m why would Orlando give that up? I guess we could trade Lou + filler to get him but would Orlando accept that?

We need a SG that's the biggest need outside of another big man for depth. A slashing SG...man wouldn't it be great if we could draft Marcus Smart! The dude is going to be an all star at the nba level.

There's that patty mills name again! What makes you think mills would leave the spurs? Seriously why would he leave a contending possible championship team to come play with the hawks. I get we are trying to run the same system but please convince me that mills would bolt San Antonio for the hawks? Turner on the other hand is looking to get his career back on track. I can see him coming for 4mil one year deal and working with coach bud to turn his career around.

Your not the only one! I think bud will win his share of COY awards and I have never said that about a hawks coach! I too think he could turn turners career around if given the chance to coach him.

Lol well I think he will be worth the shot! Like @GameTime said he's almost guaranteed a garbage 4-5m contract and I don't see the pacers matching it cause they have to deal with lance.

LMAO @JayBirdHawk I forgot about that rumor! Lol I was one of the sure dumbasses that just knew we signed him to trade him! Lol man that is hilarious that everyone including me thought that it was just a fact that ferry signed sap to trade him for asik. Yeah I learned my lesson to stop trying to know what ferry is going to do instead I will just guess.

Lol yes please provide some evidence that ferry doesn't want a star.

Also turner is a decent rebounder. Probably could do a lot better once the coach gets it in his head.

Yeah I just asked that question! Lol Seriously...I rather go after lance but I'm almost certain his first choice will be to stay with the pacers. So why not Evan Turner? Evan Turner ..... -25 years young -he played a lot better in Philly...hard to judge a player on the pacers! George Hill and others were better on other teams before they got Indiana too. -at ohio state he was a great shooter and actually the best coming in, in his draft class at shooting! Not sure what happened once he got to the nba. -at the nba level he has become a pretty good slasher which is weird because at Ohio he was a fantastic shooter. -defensively he's not that bad actually pretty decent of course could be a lot better. This guy gets a lot of heat as he didn't live up to expectations but I think coach bud and crew could develop this guy and make him a good player for us. Also he shouldn't be that much as his value has dropped greatly since being on the pacers. What you guys think?

Oh ok...sorry about that, this thread isn't too surprising but I do find the new rumor that ferry doesn't want a superstar way over the top! I mean that's basically what the negative posters are saying when you sum it all up. SMH

Seriously guys who said that ferry didn't want a star on this team? That rumor just got made up in this thread...that's what it is. And who said Ferry didn't or wasn't looking for better talent? Why in the world would ferry not look for better talent? Do we not have that?

Oh I'm sorry! Let's talk about bringing in lebron, wade, bosh, melo...it's very likely we get them all this summer! Championship! I can't believe we are talking about bringing in stars but then again we always get star players....don't we?

Name sounds familiar...but I don't recall who he is.

"And they've taken talent and developed stars around him." Exactly....they DEVELOPED THEIR STARS...that's what ferry is trying to do here along with coach bud. Give them some damn time! "And they've taken talent and developed stars around him." Exactly....they DEVELOPED THEIR STARS...that's what ferry is trying to do here along with coach bud. People need to Give them some damn time!

I never mentioned that we have 3 all stars. I just said I rather have 3 all stars along with a great supporting cast. The east being weak isn't our concern in other words who the hell cares! Miami sure doesn't care that the east is weak! Last nobody is saying we don't need quality talent, we all know we need quality talent! I'm saying we don't need to break the team by signing two major contracts like harden/Howard who also has no shot at winning a finals! Then you ask am I happy with a second round exit?! I can tell you this...I'm happy that we aren't the clippers with loads of talent but still can't get out the second round going on 5 years! Like you said quality talent but quality talent has to work together! Not just a bunch of high profile names on a team, that's not how you build a franchise! I want the hawks to go about being a great franchise like the spurs...they don't overspend on marquee names, that's what I want.

No ferry saw the best talent that he felt fit this system and I'm sure bud had a lot to do with it as well.

Hold the judgement on ferry people. I will tell you guys this...when the hawks did have bigger names smith, Johnson, bibby, Crawford, whoever else...they were soft as hell! One soft ass coward team! But today we have a new gm that brought in tough players like DMC, Sap, Brand, other smaller names that play like they want to be here and play like men for 48 minutes. I'm not wrapped up on this star player stuff as much as I once was. Truth is, is that stars don't always come through! Look a Howard and harden they failed Big time this year! I rather have 3 all stars and a great ass supporting cast! That alone will make some noise in the east! Breaking the bank for one star ain't good enough or better than that.

Agreed he would buy into the system. More than likely he solves the number 1 option needed, as far as rebounds go I'm going to say it once more....rebounding is a TEAM effort not just one individual like asik or someone a TEAM effort like the pacers

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lol but 10m won't even get him listening to ferry and bud trying to sell him the dream. I would say a paycut for a star like melo would be 16m...now that's more like it and will atleast get him to listen.....3 year 48mil deal with a player option on the final year.

Honestly man I don't think it's the system. I think it's the money. Melo has to be willing to take a major paycut and that's probably asking too much at that point. Honestly man I don't think it's the system. I think it's the money. Melo has to be willing to take a major paycut and that's probably asking too much at that point. Even Phil Jackson said that melo has to take a paycut if he returns to the Knicks if they want to be future contenders.

Well this is why it wouldn't happen. Melo got to grow some balls and take a pay cut. If he's all about winning now I expect him to do just that. Maybe not with the hawks but somebody.

I see you put melo at the 2 in your lineup!....I like, I like, I like! Smart move! DMC defense will be better next year anyways and he needs to start.