Crank

I agree thats why I feel we have to get into second place in the conference for them to have a chance . I dont feel Lopez deserves to be mentioned as his numbers are about as hollow as you can get . I cant recall a Center putting up numbers like that and yet having absolutely no impact on the game . He is the beneficiary of being on a bad team with no identity . I recall even Eddy Curry dominated several years ago and helped the knicks to a better record than the one the Nets are on pace for. Al imo opinion has a huge edge .

I agree the 5 best guards in the East so far this season have been Wade JJ Rondo Jamal Crawford Derrick Rose However because of where teams are in the standings jameer ,VC,Mo williams etc all will be considered even over Al and Horf So far this year the 5 best forwards have been Lebron Bosh Pierce Gerald Wallace Josh The top 3 centers have been Howard Al Perkins As I said earlier this season there is a chance for us to have 3 but they have to take it . They want 3 players in well get at least that #2 spot . They have 6 games over two weeks to make up 2 games .

Regular season respect means little at this point . The only way to shut anyone up is to be playing in game 7 of the east finals . Boston will never respect us until we send them fishing.

We dont look awful when JJ goes to the bench because hes on the bench we look awful because the only thing we have taught our young guys is how to stand around and watch JJ. We looked fine running screen and rolls and Crawford is a guy who we could run off screens as well the problem is the more sets you put in for the other players the less likely you can go back to iso joe . Woody is the one thats gonna pay the price ultimately for that The sad thing about Joe is that hes no longer a guard hes much more of a small forward now .

Thats garbage and AI should pull out . The 5 best guards in the East this season at this point Wade JJ Rondo Mo Williams Jamal Crawford

Now cmon you know you are exaggerating . I think everyone knows he was talking about the 4th quarter which if thats the case everything you said is wrong because in the 4th Joe did none of those things Joe in the 4th was 0-4 with a 1 TO he had 1 assist off a Josh Smith long jumper he fouled Pierce 20 ft away from the basket sending him to the line And for the most part over dribbled the entire time he was in the 4th But you know its a long season and it happens but I just expect Joe to be more of a leader at this point not only be deed but by word .

you cant make those types of comparisons because its not fair to either player . Jamal Crawford by the end of next year will probably be in the top 15 all time in the nba in 3pt fg made . He is on his way to his seventh consecutive year with 100 3pt fg made . Cassell has never even made a 100 his game was never about long distance shooting going back to his florida state days . Sam has always been a pg who can shoot it kinda like Steve Nash is now but his game due to his size was more midrange as he preferred to back down smaller pg's and shoot over them Crawford imo is a scorer who can playmake

Crawfords horrible shot selection rep comes from him taking the quick three off the dribble other than that when his feet are set his three ball is as good as anyones in the league it always has been . Do you factor in end of the quarter/half heaves ? How many shots does he take to beat the buzzer ? same for JJ Our offense creates a lot of spot up threes and it would be more detrimental to the offense if Crawford and JJ took your advice and ignored the three ball in favor of the midrange game . People complain about over dribbling now but would go nutz if JJ and Crawford passed up wideopen three point shots to move closer to the basket to take a more contested higher percentage shot. So it really boils down to wideopen 3 contested 2 most coaches would take the 3 for 35% three ball shooters the beauty is that JJ and Crawford have the ability to make those contested shots as well. But you would prefer them to take the three unless the shot just is not falling for them. One thing I thought was interesting reading this thread was you said trust your eyes but did anyone realize that for the month of December Crawford shot 47% from two AND 47% from three.

Its possible simply because Mike Dunleavy is the GM . Josh for kaman changes the entire dynamic of that team. Camby/Jordan(who is the future center there anyway ) Griffin Josh/Butler Gordon/Davis Baron/Telfair You now have two shotblockers in the lineup and it becomes get the board ,block or deflection get the ball to Baron and run the floor. I know we dont want Josh at the three but I think with a point guard like Baron the Clipps would .

As I said before you are quite enthusiastic because this team sucks then why are you here ? You say the same things after wins as you do defeats . Youve let everyone know that that the team is not very good and now you are just beating everyone over the head with it pretty much everyday . If the team was 7 games better it wouldnt matter because you would still be saying the same thing. As I said before you seem to like the attention your negativity about all things Hawks brings .

Again just want the attention . Ive never seen someone feel so good about themselves because the team they supposedly support lost .

just keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better about yourself and marvin. As I said 14 pt lead in the 4th and Marvin shot them right back into the game .

I used to think you were just passionate but now Im realizing that you really have no idea what you are talking about and just say things to get attention .

When Crawford came in it was a 4pt game and we immediately took control and took the lead to double digits . We went into the tv up 14 on a marv three but after the timeout they scored 7 straight points as we ran back to back plays for marv and his jumpshot and they were right back in it . We fell into playing there game with too many jumpshots and lost .

What game were people ? The problem was that at the start of the 4th we never actually went to the only guy on the team who has his offense going . Those first 4-5 minutes of the 4th we never went Crawford who had it going we forced the ball into the Zaza and AL and they either missed open shots or turned it over . Crawford had scored 7 of our last 12 points in the 3rd and assisted on another 2 but to start the 4th he was at the point bringing it to Joe or dumping it inside when we should have put Joe at the point and had him feed Crawford and we run pick and roll which was working from that position. We have to learn how to milk matchups until teams can stop it . They started doubling Crawford on pick and rolls way out by the 3 point line that helps us against there size inside but instead we chose to go straight at them and failed . Our rebounding was terrible if your shot is not falling then you should be going hard to the defensive glass everytime . Cleveland is a slow team at the 4-5 alot of times they just throw there bodies on your 4-5 and let Lebron or there guards just swop in to get the board .

lol touche

Oh please Chauncey is shooting under 40% They are a very good home team but you are just a little bit too happy and are hyping them up bigtime . JR doesnt play anywhere near as well on the road and Melo doesnt get the same amount of calls neither . Again great home team but not the so much better team period that you are claiming . Theyve now lost 4 straight road games including the previous two games prior to tonight so this was an awfully big home game for them after losing to the Grizzlies

Interesting discussion on Jamal Crawfords signature move by Henry Abbot I wonder when they will do one about Lebrons crab dribble . rest of article here youtube instructional video LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GTylD24IXw and actual move in real time. I see why Hinrich gets frustrated guarding Crawford now :)

Horf and Craw both showed up but this loss was more on Woody and his handling of certain situations than anything else .

When you are asking for the amount of money he is asking for its expected . "With much power comes much responsibility "

Our plan B is the screen and roll. With Crawford we now have the option of spreading the floor bringing a BIg Z or Shaq out to defend the screen and actually having someone that can use it to go right to the basket and either score or feed the bigman for a jumpshot or dunk . I like the way we matchup this year with any of the top teams in the east because any of those teams that put all of there focus into stopping iso Joe this year will lose .

I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago . To much hoopla was made about a couple f losses when the real battle for the conference doesnt even start until after Xmas. The fact that we can be a top 3 seed heading into next month is gravy because do well next month and you are knocking your competition for the top seed back actual games . Not only that but Celts starting with the xmas day game againt the Magic play 8 of 10 on the road heading into Jan. Cavs starting next Sunday play 11 of 15 on the road into the middle of January Orl starting Jan. 1 play 11 of 17 on the road we play Bos 3 times , Cavs 2 times, and the Orl 2 times We really will have a definite say so on the TOP SEED in the east . It will be there if we want it bad enough .

lol Im not gonna hate just gonna say its the fans choice. The coaches may end up fixing a ton of mistakes though .

Too early in the season for this amount of whining. I would rather the team take hits and learn from them now then to peak now and slide later . Right now several bench players are still trying to find there niche in the rotation and its the nba weve got to stop no way we should lose to team A because In the nba anyone can lose on any given night . The best team in the universe has 3 losses and we have 6 yet somehow the season is over and none of the other 62 games mean anything . Some of you sound as though you expected us to challenge the Bulls 72 win record when less than 45 days ago 50+ wins wouldve been sufficient well we are currently on pace for a 58-24 record. Weve got a good chance to string together some wins and go on another nice streak before we start out christmas road trip . We will know a whole lot more after the new year when we start the real battle for that top 3 spot

Id rather have early season upsets than late season shockers This is a growing up process and would much rather them peak late in the year than early in the year . These losses believe it or not are making it much easier on Woody to push them and hammer home certain points . the only thing that really concerns me and I said this in preseason is the level of energy that Al and Smoove have to bring everynight . One of Zaza,Marvin, or Joe smith really needs to step it up and be that big baby or Brandon bass for us .