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Dragic is already better than Calderon. If not, he's just as good.

No, but he's usually just out there in the way. Not to mention Josh causes all kind of matchup problems at the 3. Marvin isnt a matchup problem for anybody. It also allows Horford to play pf nd not have to bang with bigger centers.

Have we ever played a complete game like that vs a good team with Marvin in the starting lineup. Gotta stay BIG imo. Bring Marvin off the bench with Jamal.

Millsaps doubtful. Okur's out.

If the Hawks stick with the BIG lineup, and LD has hinted that they will, there's no minutes for Damien with Josh and Marvin at sf, and Joe, Jamal, and Mo at sg. And Mo's contract is guaranteed so they cant waive him. Teague will pushed further down the depth chart too(If thats even possible). Good thing is It also opens up a roster spot.

Agreed. Thats why you go for 30 and 30 and still lose. No effort on the defensive end. Smoove does a lot more than just points and rebounds. Players have to think before they come into the lane wih Josh lurking around. With Love, they get an invitation.

He's had back problems for years. Just look at the way he walks. And this latest fall cant help. Marvin needs to take some balance classes so he can stay off the ground.

Agreed. This team isnt built to win now. Wtf? This team wont contend for a couple more years. For a Title that is. Boston, LA, SA, etc.. is gettin old. Hawks time is around the corner. And JC2 should be ballin by then.

LMAO!

If we're going to make a trade for a pg, wait on Melo to leave Denver, and then go after Billups. Our problem is perimeter defense and leadership. Nash wont solve that. Billups would.

I heard they were playing Jameer and Gibert together.

If Rashard Lewis can get traded, then so can Marvin. lol!

Marvin bout to drop 40 on then C's. lol!

Whats the difference. 16? 18? Still too many.

STILL cant hit wide open jumpers. STILL getting his shot blocked by smaller players. STILL sitting on the bench at crunch time. STILL wrapping that towel around his head. STILL just standing around waiting on something to happen. STILL looking for daps after shooting a free throw. STILL falling down after a layup or dunk. STILL cant finish at the rim with an and 1. STILL having 1 good game and then 10 bad ones. STILL walking like an old man with back problems. STILL wabbling like a DUCK. And you know what's puzzling? He's STILL startin. Wow!

This team also has 18 players on it.

Roy has no value right now, Not with those knees. And Miller is just as old as Bibby without the jumpshots. lol! Heck, Crawford is better than both Bibby and Miller combined. lol! I'd like to have Camby, but not for our best pg and 2nd best sg.

Good sign for Crawford. He likes it here. Nothing on the Blazers(besides Aldridge) worth giving up Jamal for anyway. He's actually playing some defense this year. Not to mention, he's the best pg on the roster, and is finally adapting to the new offense. Wish they were inquiring about Marvin instead.

I think pg is just as much as a problem as center. Bibby cant penetrate, and he cant play defense. Teague can penetrate, play pretty good defense, but he cant shoot. We need a pg who can play defense, penetrate, and shoot. Just a pg and center away from being ELITE with that lineup.

He does both. What games have you been watching? Drew said he can live with the jumpers, as long as he keeps bringing the intensity and playing good defense. And the guy worked on his shot this summer. If you dont see the improvement, you must be blind. Why do you think LD told him to lose some weight? WAY better than Marvin is at sf. It also moves Horford to pf. With JJ at the 2, Josh at the 3, and Al at the 4, we're a pg and a center away from being ELITE. Btw, this move also moves Marvin to the bench where he belongs. And remember Josh was a sf as a rookie, till Woody decided to start playing players out of position. Drafting Marvin messed everything up.

Nobody's trading for Marvin. Not gonna happen. 7 mill a year for what Damien Wilkins can do for the minimum? Please. And to make things worse, Sund gave this guy a player option for the 4th year. Sund must've been on that good stuff.

Duhon over Bibby? Smoove for Gortat? Glad your're not the GM.

Yeah, Woody woulda told Joe to dribble down to the last sec and either pass it out to Josh Smith in the corner or take one of those late game contested floaters that almost never go in.

Mo is less.

Dont forget about Zaza.