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Busboy...seriously, did you see the way Portland maneuvered to get Roy? If you don't telegraph the pick or give a guarantee your options are plentiful. Hindsight is twenty-twenty, but i would think that we would have solved PG problems and maybe something else given that there were more teams interested in the five position to get a Roy or Foye than to get Shelden Williams. Some say it wasn't BK's fault, we don't know what he was offered, but for every single mock, GM and couch GM...it was no secret we wanted Shelden. Even if you did, why not deny the rumors or position yourself to POSSIBLY reap the benefits of the world not knowing who you want?

Great points. To that end, I see what BK's vision is. I love the matchup problems, but inevitably we create our own problems on the other end. For as much advantage as we would have offensively, we'd be eaten alive on the defensive end. Shelden may help (although I'm not a big fan), but again in limited minutes, we'd create nightmares for most teams with the size advantage and skill set that we have.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Chill basically take over at point/distributor at Stanford? It's not a crazy idea, but the problem would be that again, the smaller guard combos might put a strain our defense. It's not a crazy idea, but one in which I don't see happening for long periods of time.

I don't hate Shelden, I hated him at 5, I wanted Foye. I'm hoping Shelden proves me wrong like I hope Marvin proves Diesel wrong!

I just sprung a leak! It's not April 1 is it?

Well, I would figure as lawyers and businessmen, they would be able to discern the exact spelling of the limitations. I understand they can't be in contempt, but saying we can do this according to what the judge says...is not contempt! Look it up.

Good interview? He offered the same drivel that he did all week on 680 and 790. They killed him during interviews during the week. He doesn't know, nor does the Spirit know the limitations placed on them by the judge. You aim to tell me they couldn't get that before they left the courtroom. That smells of ineptitude right there! Gearon..may love the franchises..but they have been turned into the Clampetts by the EVIL GENIUS...Belkin!

Marvin gets killed by a people here who won't let Chris Paul rest. It's too late. I wanted Marvin last year and I saw the same gradual improvement Smoove showed his rookie year. I'm in the corner that thinks that Marvin will prove many of the haters/doubters here wrong.

DR.Z...that was cold! But funny!

My sentiments exactly Was....WOW!

Wu..if only Chandler where white...LOL. That's about a dumb statement. I think he sucks in any color!! And Shelden is battle tested why? Because he did it in college? I think not. I haven't liked the pick, but I'm willing to give him a chance. Although Shelden's only getting love cause he's black.

That is true final. It is easy to criticize now that Paul was ROY, but at 2 almost everyone said that Marvin Williams would be a star from the draft. I still hold that belief.

Diesel, what's your problem with Marvin other than you don't like that we drafted him instead of Chris Paul. I'm just asking because you're always critical of him and I don't see where he is bad. Other than being timid somewhat....he has the necessary tools to be more than your boy Shelden.

The game of basketball is not about being on highlight reels dunking. They make for ESPN yes. The similarities were that they progressed from unsure rookies, to better rookies to improved players. The key is the second year. Josh is more than a dunker now, his game has improved. I would expect the same from Marvin.

I certainly wouldn't mind Miller, but does anyone else think that Childress's play is eerily similar to Diaw's with the exception of far better production? I think that Chillz is at least on par or better than Diaw and given the right system would prove it!

What's more amazing is that people who don't agree with the majority have to hear about their true "fanship." Which is total stupid! Boston fans, New York fans, LA fans all get upset to a higher degree if there are moves that they don't agree with. I don't agree with all of BK's move, but when I do agree I say so. I hated the draft which some of you still hate that we disagree with BK, but I'll support the Hawks and the players in uniform. Doesn't make us any less loyal than the guys with 1000 posts and great signatures!

I have to admit that for all the physical skills that had scouts drooling, I didn't see it at the beginning of last year. But as the season went on his play was similar to Josh Smith's progressions during his first year. If Marvin hits the gym, eats some gun powder and develops a killer mentality, he'll realize his potential more than people want to give him credit for. I think he's going to be more than just solid. I see Shelden as just solid and Marvin better than that.

If you thought Billy got blasted by picking Shelden, just wait til he announces this stupid trade! Nothing doing without recouping a 1st round pick...and I would hope with all the interest Harrington is drawing, Billy would do more. Ben Wallace is the only other free agent who'd garner as much attention. Wonderful if the rumor is false!

I'm glad you're getting the love, but I"m not for the pick. I thought it sucked. That being said, I will support Shelden and hope he proves me wrong. I would love for Shelden to shut me up...and those of you who support or like Diesel and his interesting banter would be happy as well. WELCOME ABOARD. P.S. I'm not with the majority...so I fall into the whiner category. Althought I've been a Hawks fan since I was born presumably (I still have a polaroid taken with Dan Roundfield, Charlie Criss, and Tree Rollins).

I'm a grown man Diesel...and I don't cry. Call it whining if you will, but it's amazing that you're not the GM with your vast array of knowledge. If you read, I think you'll see that at least I have never said I'm done being a Hawks fan. I said that I wasn't a fan of the pick at 5. I stand by that. As much as you say he's what we need, that may be right, but it could be wrong too. I'd expect your MW trade posts to pick up now too.

Well, Dejay...I agree with you, but now that we have Shelden we have to listen to people say we're whining..etc, etc. Mr.H, I'm glad you have a lot of posts, but before you criticize fans and members of this board, realize that it's opinion and as such I don't like the pick AT 5. Simply put, if BK had not made the promise, two players were there that we could have used to 'bargain' down even two positions. I'm hoping he does what he's supposed to do according to the genuises that like the pick. All we can do is revisit this site again a year from now and debate how good or crappy this pick was.

MW...careful with the bitches comment. Disagreements don't mean you're not a Hawks fan. Just because you love the pick or have how ever many posts means JACK! Other than that, I would think we're still in decent position to do some things. If we go into the season with Lue as the starter, I don't care what you think of the draft, it's going to suck! I'd like to get a PG that can grow with the team. This team also needs to open up the floor a little and run. We'll see........AL's number is coming up soon.

Diesel, I would certainly stop belly-aching if the Hawks get AI. I'm not a fan of Shelden, nor do I think we should have taken him at 5. The problem was there could have been something done if the "promise" hadn't been made. We could have parlayed the majority interests in Foye and Roy and done more with the pick. But it's water under the bridge now. I'll support Shelden, but he's certainly not a sexy pick. (Literally either!)

What's done is done..and BK blew it. No sense crying over it. Let's be happy...sing Kumbaya...Bk and this draft is terrible!

Funny how when you disagree vehemently about BK and a move, we're whiners. I've been an Atlanta fan since I was born...I don't need Mr..whatever or anyone else playing loyalist when they don't know me. I love the Hawks, but face it the damn GM blew this one. It was the worst draft we've had in years. If he were playing chess, I would hope he laid down his King early......CHECKMATE!