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I don't really have in a dog in this fight, but I was wondering, how do we know for sure that Sheldon will be a 4. Can he not play any minutes at the 5. Is it possible that we might be picking him because we are confident he can play the 5. At the worst, it could be possible that he would split time at the 4/5. If Sheldon did that, he would play roughly 15-20 min at the 4 every night. Then there would be around 76 min for Marvin and Smoove to split at the 3/4. That seems like enough time for me for everyone to play plenty of minutes. Heres to hoping we will have plenty of depth next year.

Are you related to Hotlanta?

They still make me sad.

I don't want you guys to get me wrong. I think Chill is the better player right now than Donta. I am just not sure by how much. That is hard for me to say b/c Chill is my favorite Hawk. But like you said Exodus, the defense that Donta is capable of could prove to be very valuable, especially considering what Chill could bring back in a trade. But I will still be happy if the Hawks keep Chill (I just want to do whatever it takes to get the team to win).

9. I definately think that one of the bigs could be Andersen. I would even be happy if the Hawks got Sheldon or Bargnani, Andersen, another cheaper big (maybe Jackie Butler) and then traded Al for a point (maybe Andre Miller). To me, three bigs is even better than two. They will all get playing time. Plus, I think competition for PT is good. And it would be great trying to figure out which person to play instead of praying to find another person to see if they can play (hope that made sense).

Most everyone here knows that I am an avid reader of this site, but tend to "listen" more than post. Doing this recently has given me the chance to figure out what I really think about the current Hawks' topics. 1. I think that the Hawks need to keep the 5th pick and get the best player available. To me, that would be Bargnani, Roy, and then Shelden. 2. I think that the AI trade will not be helpful unless the Hawks only had to trade Al / Childress. 3. Childress is possibly my favorite Hawk. With that said, I think that trading him in the above trade or by himself for another lottery pick to pick up a point or big would be beneficial. 4. I think that Donta could probably give similar production as Chill if Chill is traded. 5. I think the Al for Magloire trade (only if it is a straight up trade) is a very good deal. 6. I think that the forward combo of JSmith and Marvin will be a lot better than most think. I know I will be accused of homerism, but after watching the Hawks at the end of last season, I really believe that Marvin is going to be a force sooner than later. His ability to beat his man and get to the free throw line will make him a star (and we all know that getting to the stripe is important in the playoffs...see Dwayne Wade). 7. I think that the ownership situation is very scary. While I hope that the Spirit will prevail, I fear that Belkin has a very good chance to take over. 8. I think that Al needs to be SnT at all costs. While he is a good player, Al is just not what the Hawks need. Watching our young guys play at the end of the season (mostly without Al) was very refreshing and gave me hope for the future. 9. I think that the Hawks have a good chance to make the playoffs next year provided we get two bigs and a point (the do not have to be stars). I am also taking into consideration in this assumption the Spirit will keep the team. 10. I think that this site is my favorite to check out on the net and I am very proud to be a member of the Squawk. Also, I think it would be great to have the chance to meet some of you guys. Maybe we will be lucky enough to have another invite from the owners this year.

They make me sad.

Sounds great. I plan to build next year's WC finalists. Good luck all.

I have been (and actually still am) out of town. But I am definately in. And random teams is cool with me, too. Seems the most fair.

Hope you all like it. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=63...35&q=Halo+3 If you watched this........you get a star!!!

I am definately up for playing if we do this again. Shug did a great job last year. Everything ran smoothly and most "teams" actually made their picks (and if not, Shug would choose for them in a timely manner). Oh, and how are we deciding on who gets what team? If it is by first dibbs............ then I got us!!!!!!!! Hey, I'm joking.....but seriously...... I do want to be the Hawks GM! Even if it is for only a couple of days. PS -- whoever guesses what quote I stole, and from where I stole it, gets a star

I know it's far-fetched, but maybe we could trade Al for Bynum.

That was definately one of the best movies I saw last year. A great movie!

I would not do the Chill for JR trade either......but a Salim for JR trade would definately be something that I would consider. While I do not necessarily agree with all of the points of this plan, the overall idea is very realistic and would benefit our team. Great job!

My favorite ESPN commercial has to be the one where Stuart Scott and a couple of other anchors are playing basketball with a bunch of kids. They proceed to block the kid's shots, hurt them, and talk smack. It is hilarious!!!

I am not sure that I would want AI either. But with that said, I wonder if Philly would do a trade of AI + Daly for Al (SNT) + Lue + filler Of course the trade would depend on what else Philly wanted. And if the Hawks want to take on these contracts. But thinking of the possible lineup we could put on the floor makes me consider this. AI JJ JSmoove Marvin Daly

No, I am not rooting against the Hawks. The point I was making is that there IS a DEFINATE difference in the talent that is available where you pick. You said that it doesn't really matter where we draft. I said it does. That has nothing to do with rooting against the Hawks. I want the Hawks to win every game. I also want them to get the top pick in the draft. There is nothing wrong with asking for both IMO. Since we are in the lottery no matter what, why not root for the team to win AND hope that we get the #1 pick. I also believe that 2>3>4>5>6>7.......and so on throughout the draft. How teams draft is a different story, but the pick itself is worth more when it is a better pick.

That is fine if you Quote: dont think it really matters in this draft But I am of the opinion that every single spot matters. With the way guys are not entering the draft this year (i.e. Noah), we need to be as close to the first pick as possible. Having a better pick ALWAYS provides a team with more options.

Quote: Dropping one place in the lottery standing is no big deal. I have to disagree here. In the Dwight Howard draft, the Hawks ended up winning just enough that they tied the Clippers. The Hawks then proceeded to lose a coin flip with the Clipps and ended up picking sixth in that draft rather than second. Plain and simple; we got screwed. There is absolutely no way the Clippers deserved that second pick more than we did. That one extra win ended up costing us a shot at Dwight. One extra win by a bunch of guys playing for contracts (and a coin flip) made the difference between a Hawks team with JChill instead of one anchored by either Dwight Howard or Okafor.

I agree with you on all points. I wasn't making my post in reference to your retort; the entire reason for my post was just for people to ignore BHD from now on since he obviously has no leg to stand on with his arguments (and again, I want to point out that BHD's BASKETBALL knowledge is usually sound and his BASKETBALL opinions are often interesting...these posts are worth responding to). The reasoning that you gave in defense of your points (I also appreciate the comments from AHF and Chillzatl) in the "discussion" BHD had with you was impressive in my opinion. And your thoughts about the worth of individuals in this previous post were, too. I am also of the opinion that God gives us our worth. He is our Creator and made all of us unique and perfect in His eyes. Because of this belief, I have a very difficult time listening to people who claim discrimination and then in the next post discriminate against others. It doesn't matter what how you do it, it is the same thing.

Thank you for the "BRAVO"! I am very excited about this next step.

I just hope the pick is a 7th rounder.

That is a good point, too. This thread has turned out differently than I hoped, though. The reason I was using myself as an example was to get the point across that a good education is how that particular person views it (i.e. does it get them where THEY want to go). It was getting annoying to read the same posts about racism; and the person who was claiming this was then stereotyping people who are not "Ivy League". I just think that is hypocritical. Mostly, I just want this board not to get bogged down with everyone getting riled up over issues that should be discussed elsewhere. This board should be for the Hawks. Not a place to pick a fight because someone has a chip on their shoulder. And it is especially annoying when the same person does it multiple times over the course of a couple of years (and possibly as many bannings).

I don't think that you are doubting my ability to get an education. And I also understand what you are saying about which school you go to being important in our society. I guess my main point is that just because our society AS A WHOLE thinks that, that sentiment is not true for everyone. There are a lot of people that are happy where they are. Not everyone wants power or position or whatever. That does not define everyone (and please understand that I am not saying you should not want your son to go to Johns Hopkins or wherever else). I just don't think what school we go to should define a person (much like skin color should not define a person).

I guess it is a good thing that being around the "right people" and going to the "right places" is not a concern of mine then. Dealing with that attitude is something that something I have a really hard time with. IMO, people should be judged on how they treat other people (i.e. their character). But I am still young, so being around this will probably get worse as I move to a bigger city and deal with the "important" people of the world. Oh well.