Playmaker0017 Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 "We go out and play to lose every single night, and we don't change what it is we need to do. I don't understand how your team can go out and play the exact same way and lose the exact same way every time on the floor -- have the same mistakes constantly made. It's crazy to me, [and] for it not to be addressed is beyond my imagination. I can't call it. If you keep doing what you're doing and it's not working -- I don't care what it is -- change up, do something, trap. I don't care. Change the starting five. Do something. Do something, man. To sit there and just let that . . . happen like that. It's terrible. Just terrible." Even Theo sees that this coach is an idiot. He isn't changing anything. Theo is also calling out the other players, but this is mainly directed towards the coach. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFan31 Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Yes Exactly my freaking point. Check my post on title "We need to trade.....TRADE NOW" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 This is coming from the guy that acted like Dog was the problem...This is the same guy that had 3 rebounds last night...He should probably shutup unless he wants to look at his own game aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 http://www.ajc.com/hawks/content/sports/ha...03/17hawks.html the whole article is listed above...if anything, this outburst makes me want to keep theo...he had an outburst last season also..which means he cares...but yeah, he just basically called out the coach saying we aren't changing anything that we're doing wrong... either it's coaching the help defense or our guards(jason terry) can't guard... i may be more inclined to trade jt right now than theo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted December 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Hotlanta, Sorry man, but you are offbase here. Theo probably made a blunder with Dog - but he probably thought it had more to do with Dog then the coach. But, as for the rebounds.... it is hard to rebound when a team is making over 50% of their shots and you are forced out of your position because the backcourt can't even begin to guard their men. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted December 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Hotlanta, Sorry man, but you are offbase here. Theo probably made a blunder with Dog - but he probably thought it had more to do with Dog then the coach. But, as for the rebounds.... it is hard to rebound when a team is making over 50% of their shots and you are forced out of your position because the backcourt can't even begin to guard their men. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Guess that's why Theo didn't rebound in Philly either. Theo is a near worthless player. Besides, teams dont shoot 50% every game. Too many times THeo comes away with two or three rebounds. What a joke. If he can't score he should atleast rebound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted December 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Hotz, There is no doubt Theo isn't a stellar rebounder. He tries TOO hard for the block rather than being smart, and playing position or boxing a man out. A lot of that is due to coaching and how he has been asked to play, in Philly and Atlanta. He is not a true center. There is no doubt. But, when put on a scale (albeit a pretty worthless scale) he has more value then everyone except Reef on this squad. He also has one of the better understandings of basketball then most of our guys. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted December 17, 2003 Moderators Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Right or wrong somebody has to say something. If for no other reason than to make it interesting. He's probably trying to get traded. There really isn't a much worse situation to go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFan31 Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Is sad, so sad, but reading that article it sounds to me that Stotts is clueless and Theo has more knowledge of what to do to win. If we do not have good one-on-one defenders then trap, if we do not have good half court sets then crash the offensive boards. Another thing I have a problem with Stotts coaching is the freaking pick n Roll, every team expects it, so the forward or Center show them self really hard on top of the key, so change it up Stotts have a cutter or 2 come down the lane, keep the defense off balance and respectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted December 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 JTFan, Correct. Stotts is awful. From the beginning of the year, Theo has exacerbated that we should be getting the ball in the post. He believes Reef should be the focal point of the offense. (even Diaw said his job is to get Reef and Theo the ball) But Stotts believes in the college style of offense... or worse yet, the high school system where EVERYONE gets shots. That doesn't work. On defense he doesn't change it up. And when he does, he changes it to things that work worse. A THREE-TWO ZONE when you are rebounding poorly, is NOT a good choice. Where are you going to get the rebounds? Further, we DOUBLE EVERYONE?! What is that? Then you put us in a zone, where you have to sag... open for three all night or the drive and kick. The pick and roll with JT and Reef is, maybe, the worst play in basketball. JT can't get the ball off to Reef. Reef doesn't set a good screen and doesn't roll strong to the basket. Yet, we run this play 20 times a game. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted December 17, 2003 Moderators Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Playmaker, everything you said is exactly right. Sadly it makes me long to see Mookie and Laettner run the pick and roll. We did it too much then too, but at least they could do it and Laettner could knock down the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolehawk2 Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Theo was on the Stews earlier this year and he said basically the same thing. They asked about Dog and his TOs and shot selection/lack of defense and Theo said it was up to the coaches to allow that to happen. He said we need to play inside out every night to move the defense and our guards need to work harder to deny penetration. He just seem to have little faith in Stotts to make changes. Something has to happen ......trade or fire somebody! It does not make sense to do the same thing night in and night out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 From the beginning of the year, Theo has exacerbated that we should be getting the ball in the post. He believes Reef should be the focal point of the offense. (even Diaw said his job is to get Reef and Theo the ball) But Stotts believes in the college style of offense... or worse yet, the high school system where EVERYONE gets shots. " It isn't Stotts fault the NBA isnt real basketball anymore. No wonder the college game is supposed to be better than the NBA.... "Further, we DOUBLE EVERYONE?! What is that? " Because JT/SAR/Dion/Jax/Nailon/Theo can't defend one on one. The only ones that can defend one on one on this team is Vaughn and Diaw...That's IT. "The pick and roll with JT and Reef is, maybe, the worst play in basketball. JT can't get the ball off to Reef. Reef doesn't set a good screen and doesn't roll strong to the basket. Yet, we run this play 20 times a game." Yeah that's another problem if Reef...If it isn't scoring he doesn't understand how it works. JT only ran the pick n roll well with Lo...Can't remember him doing it good with anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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