Was Hawks International a Product of Danny Ferry?

[PSSSHHHRRR87]

Watching this Spurs Summer League game then it hits me... Guys like Hardaway Jr and Glenn Robinson III were guys that many wanted Ferry to draft... and now they are a part of the Hawks in some respect post-Ferry. Coach Bud even said in the THJR interview that he was a guy that the Hawks had their eye on for a while. Ferry brought in Pero... Now Pero is back in Europe after two seasons. Also, I believe our SL roster in 2014 had more International players.

 

Was Hawks International more of a brainchild of Ferry than of Bud & the rest of the organization or am I just seeing things?

[NBASupes]

Their a product of the style we want to play and do. I don't think it's just Ferry. It's all of the guys we hired.

[Ebert]

We drafted two european guys on June so it may answer your question... the nationality doesn't matter for this staff 

[AHF]

Also added international upgrade in Splitter.

[PSSSHHHRRR87]

Maybe the focus isn't International, but now BPA for our need?

It just feels like Danny made an effort in bringing in international talent over Americans and now with Budcox, that isn't so. I guess Ferry also drafted Moose, Scott, Jenkins, and Payne... Guess I'm seeing things and going senile. lol

[AHF]

I think the "Ferry loves Euros" stuff was always a overblown.  We grabbed some Euros but also spent plenty of draft capital on Americans.  This offseason we added two big pieces to last year's roster:  THJ and Splitter.  That is half and half on the Euro/American split.  What we do with our 15th spot on the roster means a lot less to me.  I see Bud as being someone who wants talent with the right fit regardless of where that talent grew up.  We'll see more over time but I have a hard time seeing us going at all one direction or the other just for the sake of a touchstone on a particular continent.  Next years roster will heavily feature Thabo, Splitter, Dennis which is the same number of foreign players our rotation featured last year.

[Guest]

I think the "Ferry loves Euros" stuff was always a overblown. We grabbed some Euros but also spent plenty of draft capital on Americans. This offseason we added two big pieces to last year's roster: THJ and Splitter. That is half and half on the Euro/American split. What we do with our 15th spot on the roster means a lot less to me. I see Bud as being someone who wants talent with the right fit regardless of where that talent grew up. We'll see more over time but I have a hard time seeing us going at all one direction or the other just for the sake of a touchstone on a particular continent. Next years roster will heavily feature Thabo, Splitter, Dennis which is the same number of foreign players our rotation featured last year.

You forgot Holiday - it's a myth.

[AHF]

You forgot Holiday - it's a myth.

 

I'm not optimistic about him being a major part of the rotation.  I hope he surprises me!

[Ebert]

Maybe the focus isn't International, but now BPA for our need?

It just feels like Danny made an effort in bringing in international talent over Americans and now with Budcox, that isn't so. I guess Ferry also drafted Moose, Scott, Jenkins, and Payne... Guess I'm seeing things and going senile. lol

 

Let's take a look:

 

 

 

• June 28, 2012: Selected John Jenkins (1st round, 23rd pick) and Mike Scott (2nd round, 43rd pick) in the 2012 NBA Draft.
• July 11, 2012: Traded Marvin Williams to the Utah Jazz for Devin Harris.
• July 11, 2012: Traded Joe Johnson to the Brooklyn Nets for Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, Johan Petro, DeShawn Stevenson, Jordan Williams, a 2013 1st round draft pick (Shane Larkin was later selected) and a 2017 2nd round draft pick.
• July 12, 2012: Signed Louis Williams as a free agent.
• July 12, 2012: Signed Louis Williams as a free agent.
• July 16, 2012: Traded cash to the Chicago Bulls for Kyle Korver. Chicago also received a trade exception from Atlanta.
• July 30, 2012: Traded Willie Green to the Los Angeles Clippers for Sofoklis Schortsanitis. Atlanta also received a trade exception from Los Angeles.
• September 27, 2012: Signed James Anderson as a free agent.
• September 27, 2012: Signed Carldell Johnson as a free agent.
• September 27, 2012: Signed Keith Benson as a free agent.
• September 27, 2012: Signed Damion James as a free agent.
• September 27, 2012: Signed Anthony Tolliver as a free agent.
• January 21, 2013: Signed Jannero Pargo to the first of two 10-day contracts.
• February 21, 2013: Traded cash and future considerations to the Golden State Warriors for Jeremy Tyler.
• February 21, 2013: Traded Anthony Morrow to the Dallas Mavericks for Dahntay Jones.
• March 6, 2013: Signed Shelvin Mack to two 10-day contracts, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.
• May 28, 2013: Hired Mike Budenholzer as Head Coach.
• June 27, 2013: Selected Dennis Schröder (1st round, 17th pick), Shane Larkin (1st round, 18th pick) and Raul Neto (2nd round, 47th pick) in the 2013 NBA Draft.
• June 27, 2013: Traded Shane Larkin and cash to the Dallas Mavericks for Jared Cunningham, Lucas Nogueira and Mike Muscala.
• June 27, 2013: Traded Raul Neto to the Utah Jazz for a 2015 2nd round draft pick.
• July 10, 2013: Signed Paul Millsap as a free agent.
• July 15, 2013: Signed Elton Brand as a free agent.
• July 29, 2013: Signed Gustavo Ayón as a free agent.
• August 3, 2013: Signed DeMarre Carroll as a free agent.
• January 11, 2014: Signed James Nunnally to a 10-day contract.
• February 1, 2014: Signed Cartier Martin to a 10-day contract.
• February 11, 2014: Signed Cartier Martin to a 10-day contract.
• February 20, 2014: Traded Cenk Akyol to the Los Angeles Clippers for Antawn Jamison and cash.
• February 21, 2014: Signed Cartier Martin to a contract for the rest of the season.
• February 22, 2014: Signed Dexter Pittman to a 10-day contract.
• June 26, 2014: Selected Adreian Payne (1st round, 15th pick) and Walter Tavares (2nd round, 43rd pick) in the 2014 NBA Draft.
• June 27, 2014: Traded a 2015 2nd round draft pick to the Milwaukee Bucks for Lamar Patterson.
• June 29, 2014: Traded Lucas Nogueira and Lou Williams to the Toronto Raptors for John Salmons.
• July 15, 2014: Traded Sofoklis Schortsanitis and a trade exception to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Giorgos Printezis, Thabo Sefolosha and cash.

 

 

The only international pieces that he added were Dennis, Nogueira,  Tavares, Petro, Ayón and Thabo Sefolosha. I won't consider Printezis or Schortsianitis because they just were draft rights that we used to do some trades. 6 players in 3 summers. 

 

Budcox has traded for Splitter and drafted two european guys. 3 players in 1 summer. 

Edited July 20, 2015 by Ebert

[AHF]

Let's take a look:

 

 

 

The only international pieces that he added were Dennis, Nogueira,  Tavares, Petro, Ayón and Thabo Selofosha. I won't consider Printezis or Schortsianitis because they just were draft rights that we used to do some trades. 6 players in 3 summers. 

 

Budcox has traded for Splitter and drafted two european guys. 3 players in 1 summer. 

 

Budcox has gone over the edge -- all Euro all the time!

[Gray Mule]

PSSSHHHRRR87

 

Welcome to the senile club.  I've been a member for a long time!

 

[Guest]

Watching this Spurs Summer League game then it hits me... Guys like Hardaway Jr and Glenn Robinson III were guys that many wanted Ferry to draft... and now they are a part of the Hawks in some respect post-Ferry. Coach Bud even said in the THJR interview that he was a guy that the Hawks had their eye on for a while. Ferry brought in Pero... Now Pero is back in Europe after two seasons. Also, I believe our SL roster in 2014 had more International players.

 

Was Hawks International more of a brainchild of Ferry than of Bud & the rest of the organization or am I just seeing things?

 

The nimbers kinda say you're probably seeing things.  Our Euro-esque style of play changes the type of players we go after I guess which creates the impression that we're all about some Euros.

 

I dunno ... but hey I'm all for some stealth Ferry-bashin' so carry on.

 

Side-note: I had a really inappropriate comment about Ferry-bashin' and @Spud2Nique but I decided to leave it unsaid.  #personalgrowth?

[Guest]

The nimbers kinda say you're probably seeing things. Our Euro-esque style of play changes the type of players we go after I guess which creates the impression that we're all about some Euros.

I dunno ... but hey I'm all for some stealth Ferry-bashin' so carry on.

Side-note: I had a really inappropriate comment about Ferry-bashin' and @Spud2Nique but I decided to leave it unsaid. #personalgrowth?

Sounds like you missed me.

[DJlaysitup]

Well...come to think of it...we did ante up to re-sign Paul Millsap from Louisiana...where there is a large French contingent.  This could be a trend.