Eddielives

Okay, so half wasn't accurate. More like a lot less especially if a team pays Drummond 30plus million a year.

This. Look. Drummond is a helluva player. You gotta respect his ability to rebound and be a defensive game changer at times. But he's NOT a max player in today's NBA by any stretch if you're trying to build a championship team. He's basically a likeable, non-douchebag, Dwight Howard. He doesn't stretch the floor, cannot hit free throws, and becomes a garbage only offensive player when playing against a good team with another competent defensive big. There is a reason he's being shopped. Detroit, much like Atlanta with Howard, is looking for the most pennies on the dollar for a guy that, again, is really great at certain things, but is not a well rounded player. The team that gives him the max will regret it massively. Stephen Adams, while much less sexy, would provide 90% of what Drummond would bring with half the pricetag.

I hope this isn't Schlenk giving in to Trae's frustration with the team not winning. But maybe it makes Trae feel better to see that discussions are happening at least.

Drummond on the Hawks eh? Fine.....as long as (other than the obvious)Hunter, Reddish, and NO FIRST ROUND PICKS!!! are part of the deal. They can, however, have Bruno. Now if they have an agreement that he would sign here, reasonably, then maybe we sweeten the pot a little.

Came over from realgm. I can't remember if I heard about it there or just found it googling. I'm mostly quiet except for draft, free agency, and of course the trade deadline as those are the times where the most exciting action happens. And let's face it....the Hawks are ever hoping for that free agent or draft pick to hit to lift us up.

Egggggsactly.It was clearly stated by he whom I come out of the woodworks for(LOL) that if he/Schlenk doesn't get the #1 or #2, then he should be terminated. This is determined by circumstances outside of anyone's control unless you're a hopeless conspiracy theorist. He knows what he said. He's not stupid.

I'm sorry. I used to get upset over sports forums too when I was little. Then I grew up and realized life is too short. Magic wasn't that good of a GM and maybe he was a bit of a victim of some weird ownership situation but he's a legend there and would still be there if he were that great. And to suggest a GM be fired for ping pong ball results is worthy of being called out as not reasonable.

Sorry. I didn't mean to get you all butthurt. You can beg for him and want people fired people for lottery results. That's cool.

Full disclosure I'm not up to speed on anybody besides Edwards and Wiseman as they're the 2 most heralded heading into this draft. But these guys you mention would have to be close to sure things for me to feel good about bringing in more projects at this point. We need a plug and play guy that is a consensus immediate heavy contributer like the 2 aforementioned guys almost certainly will be or use the pick to get an established star player.

If we get a top 2 pick, I'm all for keeping it for the two main guys...assuming of course someone else doesn't come from out of nowhere to make a legit claim for the 1st or 2nd pick. 3rd or higher we use it in a trade for an established player. I still believe in Hunter but I don't want another pick like him with a top 5 pick. I'd like to think we're a little more poised towards building a contender than staying put for another non-sure thing lottery pick.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. I didn't really get to know him through interviews or anything like that when he was here so I don't really have a gauge on the guy's attitutde. You could be right but I think he deserves a little more credit than to be painted as a guy who would has definitely done what you say he has....cashed in and quit.

Why would this be a justified belief? Has he said anything or acted in ways I'm not aware of that would support this claim?

I'm pretty sure he's a sentient, male, human being...not a designated space for the display of grand honor.

I think we're missing Dedmon. Not sure why he's stunk so bad in Sac-town but he was a stabilizing defensive factor for us. Len kinda seems to have ridden his coattails a little bit.

Who knows if he willingly took something he knew he could get suspended for. But I do know that there's a lot of ignorant people that fall victim to taking some pill/herb/cream/etc. because it is "natural" or claims to be organic and thus is excluded from regulation as a "supplement." These products are not subjected to the same regulation as real drugs, can make any claim they f'ing want, and play on people's ignorance that "natural" is somehow better than medical science and the pharmaceutical industries extensive research into the drugs it releases into the market. It really pisses me off and it's likely he may have fallen into this trap.

Reminding those that were in last year that the league was renewed and the draft is TONIGHT!! So be there or be a loser I know this isn't front page but usually the mods are cool to let this settle here temporarily.

Who are "EI-P and Oleksiy?"

Any thread that starts with assertions of being able to read the minds of our gm, continuing to deny the concept of a rebuild process where an integral strategy is to not overpay to try to just be better for cosmetic reasons, and cherry-picking evidence to continue a negative Nancy narrative, is a thread that needs to just be ignored.

I swear these draft "grades" or offseason "grades" are so arbitrary and meaningless in most cases. Unless there's a situation where a completely lopsided trade happens or a guy in the draft like Zion were to fall to 3 or 4 for no apparent reason, there's just too much unknown to assign a "grade" to these circumstances.

We'll probably never see guys in the list you provided play in the Big3. All those guys are, to put it bluntly, above that nonsense. And if money for these guys were an issue, any of them can make more just doing media.

I'm referencing a thread a while back that got out of hand that dealt with females in the sports broadcasting/reporting industry.

Haha! Never forget!

Gasp! A woman covering the Hawks???!!! We all know from a certain enlightened segment of this Squawk community that this means she's nothing more than eye candy that got the job for physical reasons and not because there can actually be a woman with real qualifications besides her boobs, butt, and pretty face!

1) Trae's production numbers go slightly down but his efficiency goes up(which is fine with me) 2)Cam Reddish struggles but not to the point he's considered a bust 3) Bruno is mostly a non factor 4) Hunter is in the running for ROTY with an amazing rookie campaign 5) Hawks win 35 games

I didn't read the thread from the beginning so I thought the disagreement was which team is better so my bad for that. But I still think their young core is pretty damn good and any bust talk for the rookies on both sides is nonsense right now.