Eddielives

While you're right that games need to be played to have real NBA data, I don't think it's bashing the Hawks or propping the Pelicans up to say they have a better team. They still have Jrue Holiday too if I'm not mistaken. Let's just give our Hawks some time and they may prove to be better. But for now, that New Orleans team has just got more talent.

Tough break. He sucked for us in summer league this year. Kid probably should look overseas and will find work.

Can we start calling Crabbe the "Blue Swimmer"?

That would have been a porno.

It's official. Jalen Rose is a arsehat.

I saw where Jalen Rose said he's 99% sure, or something to that effect, that Kawhi is returning to the Raptors on a two year deal. He was pretty smug about this being true as well. So if he's wrong, we know Jalen is kinda an unreliable arsehat.

No thanks to Tristan. With the crap that's left out there for centers, I'm inclined at this point to just let Bruno be our backup center and grab whatever scrub we can for a 3rd.

I'm going Jeff Green.

"Nobody thought that Cam would drop to 10." This statement isn't true at all. Several mocks had him higher than 10.

I think this comment about the media is unfair. Let's just look at the situation in December that would lead talking heads to say so adamantly that Luka is going to win. The situation was that Trae was putting up historically bad efficiency numbers while Luka pretty much came out of the gate in mid-season form. Having a strong opinion at that time isn't or wasn't controversial. It was honest and true to what each were doing. I don't think any of us at that time expected Trae to go on the tear he did the rest of the season. Yet he did so why didn't that bridge the gap? Well basically because Luka didn't have any significant falling off from his numbers and looked the part of what the hype around him was. Remove Luka from this year and Trae wins it unanimously. Assigning an almost conspiracy level of pre-determination about the reward in December fails to consider just how good he was all year whereas Trae took a minute to get rolling. That's really what the deciding factor. It diminishes what Luka did to layer the award with a level of media bias and pre-determinism. I mean who here, after trying to remove as much Hawk bias as possible, would have truly voted for Trae over Luka?

I'm not the biggest Joe Johnson fan but I wouldn't have any problem with his jersey being retired here. He worked his ass off for us and was really good for a 3-4 year period. I just can't help but feel like this big3 league is something that shouldn't be happening though. It just seems so weird to me. Even Demar Johnson is in this thing. So strange.

And he's the captain of the team? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Looking at the rosters of this league is so funny. It's like a Jerry Springer type reaction. I'm so turned off by how much of a disaster this looks like it could be but I'm equally fascinated by how it's going to turn out. I don't even know how some guys can even play. Like how can Greg Oden even play? I thought he basically couldn't jump or do anything on his feet athletically without crumbling to the ground in pain or injury?

Hmm. I can't remember. I'll try to find out if he's still interested or if I should replace him.

I went B for the following reasons. This draft will probably be a lot like '16 where we look back and, aside from Zion, realize it was a pretty meh draft for the talent. So I had wishes that we might actually trade out of this draft with some of our picks for next year's, or a future year, where a top ten pick would be more exciting. But as for our actual picks, I had Culver as slightly higher than Hunter for long term potential. Now I like Hunter a lot and as always with a prediction like this, I hope I'm wrong for the sake of the Hawks. But I project Hunter to be a Jae Crowder equivalent type player. With the 4 pick in a draft, you just hope to come away with something a little more exciting. Now for Reddish. I really hope I'm wrong again but I have serious questions as to whether he'll put it all together. It's a risky pick you hope to take more towards the middle to end of the first round rather than a top ten. Bruno I have little expectation other than a valuable role player so this pick didn't really influence me much. But I do like the pick just fine. That's why I have to give this draft a B and a lot of it is just because the crop of players was pretty boring to choose from.

These Bruno and Bol in the lottery predictions! I hope you guys learned something lol! Bias is a beeyatch.

I do believe you are correct sir. I owned up to my miscalculation on Brandon Clarke going in the lottery. Time for the BRUNO AT 10 people to step up to the crow buffet. There's still plenty there.

So yeah, draft grades...we probably all look at them and love them if we agree and hate them if we don't. But giving the Cam pick a D? That's crazy. We didn't move up to get him. He went probably about exactly where he should have gone and he's one of the more, if not the, biggest upside pick in the draft. CBS is way off.

We all are preparing our crow and mentioned it earlier in this thread. You were right.

Hawks fans need to show patience with Cam. I think it's going to take him a few seasons. Hopefully he doesn't get down on himself because he can be great.

And why not. He fits the culture and when healthy is a perfectly capable backup.

@Peoriabird

Well I was wrong about Brandon Clarke going in the lottery. I'm eating crow on that one Peoria.

And there goes Sekou

Romeo at 14