bird_dirt

i keep doing a double take whenever they mention harrington on the broadcast (junior w/ the grizz).

lo wright mixin it up with "no FRIEND of mine"

lo throwin' bows, "no friend of mine"

hawks up by 25

Quote: 12 turn overs These all look good but the TO . . . . . but it is early and Speedy isn't playing they have 12 TO, but at least the grizz has 15 TO. i would expect there to be high turnovers in the preseason, i'm just glad as long as the hawks force the other team into more TOs then they get.

hawks - 3pt=.538 (7 of 13) grizz - 3pt=.143 (1 of 7) hawks - 24 reb. grizz - 15 reb. hawks - 4 blks grizz - 1 blk hawks top scorer - jj 22pts grizz top scorer - cardinal 10pts hawks 60 grizz 40 yeah, baby (even if it is w/o gasol) i'll take that.

Quote: Marvin looked like a new guy since last year...He also ran a little point forward and looked pretty good doing it. Salim can score if he can't do anything else. He hit several very difficult shots. Still gets lost on D (T Lue was draining open J's) and he is still not a PG. It will be interesting to see how much he gets on the floor with Speedy/Lue at PG and JJ/Chillz at SG. for as much as has been mentioned about salim being a part time pg, i have the feeling that when he is in there in the "point guard" slot, that more than likely jj (or possibly marvin given what you stated above) will be doing more of the ball handling/leading/distributing at that time. he will probably just be in there as the point by name only, and hopefully he will learn some defense so he will be able to cover the opposing point while he's in there.

i'd agree that abreu was a good pick up, too. fairly solid across the board. the yanks won't be able to trade a-rod unless they agree to pay at least 15 of the 25 mil he's owed each year for the remainder of his contract. the yankees were the only ones capable and dumb enough to take on that salary from texas. they may get some decent prospects back from trading him, but they will still be carrying the burden of his contract after he's gone. i guess the boss has already shown, though, that money is not an issue.

Quote: I am thrilled with what I have seen from Cano, Wang, and Cabrera. Those 3 young kids have very high ceilings. that's the problem with george/the yankees. the 3 players you're so thrilled about are all young players making their way up. honestly, it's amazing they they have even been given a chance to play, much less start, in pinstripes. steinbrenner's m.o. has always been so much WIN NOW/don't think about later that he out prices the rest of the market for any free agent, and what players he doesn't get through free agency, he trades what few remaining prospects they do have. the yankees have been dealing with a horribly depleted farm system due to this very reason (though cashman has been trying his damnedest to change that). i find it very amusing when they so obviously overpay for players (like "the big unit")just to make sure they get them and no one else does, and then that player has maybe one good year followed by spinning decline in the remaining 3 years of an overblown contract. serves them right. when they are so willing to pay so much for so little, it makes every other crap player believe they deserve they should get that and then some. i know, it's a free market, so i won't fight for some communist control over the game, it just makes yankee bashing that much more worth while. honestly, as far as a-rod goes, i really, really, really wished he would've stayed in texas for the remainder of his contract. i think the rangers should have been forced to keep the burden of his rediculous contract they gave him. it's sad that if a player has any amount of above average skills, then there is always a "get out of jail free" card in the yankees if their team signs them for too much. i really believe teams sign players to contracts with escallating salaries with the intention of trading them to the yankees down the road, because they are the only ones dumb enough willing to pay them. really, though, what george does with his money is his own business, so i don't really care that much. it's just seems boring to me when a team collects all those players because that's the only way they know they can win. it's like playing a video game. i can trade for all the best all-stars and win it all easily, but it's not that much fun. it's much more interesting and exciting to be able to do it with a bunch of players that came up through the same team's system and a patchwork of other players that could've just as easily have been a .350 win club as a .750 win club.

Quote: Don;t you guys think it's kinda cliche to hate on the rich all the time? it's not about hating the rich--it's just fun to hate on the rich when they're also arrogant and stupid to boot!

i could maybe see it become some kind of nbdl thing (like nfl europe, but better), but it would be absolutely shocking if it were included in the actual nba league itself. when baseball players were saying how difficult it was to travel to games in puerto rico (expos/pre nationals), i would find it harder to see teams managing travel across a whole ocean without ill effect.

good post diesel--i like the spurs analysis. good response northcyde--that's the best (realistically speaking) comments on the hawks on the defensive end i've read here. extra points for bringing up the bengals--who dey!

i'd like nothing more than to see marvin to blow up huge, but i would have to say i'd probably rather see dwight and josh s. in hawks' uniforms than marvin and josh. i wouldn't mind seeing marvin and dwight, either. if i'm not mistaken, the bobcats will be plenty under the salary cap and able to make a huge offseason aquisition, too. seems like the bobcats and hawks perenially have capspace to sign f.a.s. hopefully the hawks leagal problems will be resolved and they can start spending that cash, and johnson and jordan will continue to just be cheap owners and not sign anyone major.

Quote: I wanted Deron. Paul was too much of a defensive liability. you aren't alone. this is pathetic how long this cp3 thing is dragging out. EVERYONE in the nation had bogut at 1, marvin at 2. bk said if we got the first draft pick, we would've taken bogut. if he would've taken a pg, it would've been deron williams anyway, largely due to his size. no one is saying anything about utah taking deron over paul, why can't people let the chris paul thing go? LET IT GO! cp is good, marvin is good. it's sad when a player you want wasn't picked, but there is still some room for being happy that at least we did get a good player. there's no telling what would've happened if cp was here--it's pure speculation and conjecture. for all we know, he may not have meshed with the rest of the players, he may have gotten hurt, he may have spent significant time on the bench his first year, he could've gotten arrested late night in buckhead... ANYTHING could've happened and people could just as easily been b!tching about why did we take chris paul and not deron, or marvin, or whatever other ROY candidate may have stepped up in that alternate universe. LET IT GO YOU WALTER SHEEP!

i'm in. it's been a few years since i last played fantasy basketball, i'll give it another spin.

great for jj. i hate espn. their site sucks and anymore they want you to pay for an "insider" subscription for nearly anything that isn't just regular ap wire stuff. i most often go to the sports illustrated site for generic sports info.

okay, i'm home now and can repeat what a book i was reading says (encyclopidia of serial murders--my wife checked it out from the library!) "Specifically, Wayne Williams had no access to the vehicles in question at the times when three of the six "fiber (evidence)" victims were killed. Wayne's father took the Ford in for repairs at 9:00am on July 30, 1980, nearly five hours before Earl Terrell vanished that afternoon. Terrell was long dead before Williams got the car back on August 7, and it was returned to the shop next morning (August 8), still refusing to start. A new estimate on repair costs was so expensive that Wayne's father refused to pay, and the family never again had access to the car. Meanwhile, Clifford Jones was kidnapped on August 20 and Charles Stephens on October 9, 1980. The defendant's family did not purchase the 1970 Chevrolet in question until October 21, 12 days after Stephen's death..... In November 1985 (almost four years after ww's conviction), a new team of lawyers uncovered once-classified documents from an investigation of the Ku Klux Klan, conducted during 1980 and '81 by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. A spy inside the Klan told GBI agents that Klansmen were "killing the children" in Atlanta, hoping to provoke a race war.....In early 1981, the same informant told GBI agents that "after twenty black-child killings, they, the Klan, were going to start killing black women."" police records note the unsolved murders of numerous black women in Atlanta in 1980-82, with most of the victoms strangled. that is all just a small portion of pro ww innocence/pro klan-gbi conspiracy. he's been repeatedly denied a retrial based on suppressed evidence, as recently as i know of in 2000. i know atl, ga, the south as a whole has a horrible history of racism, capitol crimes being covered up, particularly for kkk members and such, but it's nuts just how recent so much of it has gone on. i told my family and friends with pride while i was living there how the mayor was an african american woman (franklin) and the 2nd in command (city council president) was the nations highest raking elected official who was openly gay. that's a huge deal, and says a lot of the level of acceptance the citizens hold. i'm sure a lot of the "good ole boy" network behind the scenes conspiracies continue on to this day, though.

i was just reading about this last week. it is weak. he had solid alibis during many of the killings. also, the car was in the repair shop (with receipts to prove it) at the same time that the killings occured that had supposedly had the same fiber as the trunk of the car. it was a total set up. there have been other reports of various members of the klan taking part in the killings. they apparently started with kids, then began moving on to women, all in an attempt to slow their reproduction rates. absolutely disgusting. it is yet another example of the atl police deptartment botching a major murder investigation (like ray lewis & co. episode, and the dekalb sheriffs case - can't remember their names)

Quote: I don't see how anybody can really argue that Clinton got him. Maybe it's not the strongest argument on Bill's part. Just saying "I Tried, but failed" doesn't really answer everything, but he still made Chris Wallace look like a fool. I personally avoid the whole right wing vs. left wing thing because it's all propaganda IMO. I see pretty much all political figures as crooks. Clinton is no different. Still a good interview anyway. ditto that.

yeah, when it comes down to it, it's all about entertainment.

Quote: If anything I'd like us to bring back someone like Schmidt who's more of a power pitcher. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from bringing over Hudson who I see as more of a finesse guy. I tend to think that as long as a pitcher can hit 90 and get some amount of movement on the ball, they're a safer bet than a technical guy who could lose track of the strike zone. i've usually read the opposite. power pitchers lose some gas, wear out their arms faster than finesse pitchers (like maddox). although, given that line of thought, clemens seems like a freak of nature.

al harrington

not to knit-pick or anything, but couldn't you also consider the blues to be all whining, depressed alcoholics? can instromental play by druggies or alcoholics be more inspirational than their lyrics? i think heavy drug usage is pretty rampant across all of the music industry, regardless of the genre. that's a pretty well documented fact.

Quote: It was his attempt @ sarcasm. i appreciate the clarification. between that, and the "most responsible for the destruction of..." thread, the line between reality and sarcasm was getting a little blurry for me.

Quote: ...and use there NBA money to buy kilos of cocaine to sell to elementary school children. sounds like just another average miami junior acheivement aferschool program. community action at work!