OldTimeHawk

time to trade. if you think Young isnt the answer whats the best time to send him packing ?? I have seen this entire roster turned over and we cant seem to get the right pieces to compliment him . Maybe its him ??

we have flipped almost the entire roster putting pieces around Young. We have gotten worse. Lets put the blame on the coach though .....

good thing is the threshhold for making the playoffs is kinda low which gives us time to see who fits . This team has talent but dang they almost provide an escort to the basket..

Im not anti Trae . I love the guy but he has to do the little things and make his teammates look good and put the team in good situations. Taking personal responsibility for his shortcomings and working his ass off to stop being the weak link on defense. Im not saying he has to lead the league but putting in effort and doing the same dirty work as everyone else goes a long way to inspire your team mates. A locker room is always going to be somewhat dysfunctional but here we are again after adding talent and its the same shit. But ultimately NM will be the guy gone - seems hes lost Trae - we aint moving forward until one of them is gone .

any team sports is about establishing roles. This is Traes team and he calls the shots . Murray got to step lightly . The team dynamic has to change but the power rests with Trae. A mature player uses that power wisely and exhibits leadership through actions. Lets pretend that Trae has done this and its all NM fault while also scapegoating JC.

at this point we are who we are . We dont trade Trae this season but we cant keep playing at this level. NM will be gone very soon if he cant get ahold of this situation. Then we reevaluate whether Trae can work here in the offseason and a blow up is in order. But in my opinion this team is underachieving . Coaches dont have the power they did in the past and NM is gonna lose unless he can figure out how to salvage this quick.

we have traded away multiple assets to surround Trae with players yet here we are and Trae is still jacking up stupid shots at the worst possible moments , standing around if the balls not in his hands, and constantly being the weak link on the defensive side of the ball. The offense isnt working because its either all about Trae getting his. Basketball is about finding out who is hot on a given night and getting them the ball and exploiting mismatches. We pretty much are watching while Murray goes into a shell . So I guess to keep Trae happy we bust up this team again and fire the coach? Maybe Trae wants to be player coach too ?? I would love to see what Murray an do and how he would utilize his teamates.

I think we have the pieces Trae just needs to grow the f up and get better. Moving Trae does not mean rebuild in my opinion. It just means we either getting an asset back and the internal strife goes away or we get a future draft pick to replace him and the internal strife goes away. And more than likely the defensive liability that is T Young is replaced with someone that has the heart and desire to play defense.

Im gonna go out on a limb and say we run and gun our way to 40 wins . I really dont care about the wins or losses this year as long as guys play within the system and share the ball , and our rookies get the season to develop.

Im pretty optimistic - the guys are young but have talent. But one thing they dont have yet is bad habits that old vets have. If they buy into the system and execute and share the basketball we will surprise a lot of teams. Right now other than Dennis we arent really locked into any players. If they dont play Bud ball its not gonna hurt to turn them loose. Lots of upside to this team but want to see how the bench shakes out.

What no exit speech about fan apathy??? Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

havent had a chance to watch any games , but keeping track when I can - but is Al staying outside more helping to open up the floor inside ?

this is year 2 and players like Bazemore are going to get more playing time and a season to develop even more. Its all about the system guys and giving players on the roster a chance to grow into those roles. If we need to upgrade come trade deadline we will but folks have to realize we arent the Cavs and a handful of other teams that can just throw money out there - also look for Lebron to screw Cleveland again.

Wade is on the downside ad just not worth anything near that. His time in the NBA is winding down and if Im his agent Im telling him to take the option with Miami and finish up with the Heat - he has his rings with and without Lebron . I certainly dont want a deminished version of him on the Hawks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/investigation-finds-no-evidence-bias-ferry-231647653--nba.html When the people you work for dont have the courage to stand up for you why would you want to come back ?? This was a fear based decision NOT to back up Ferry , little too late for the Hawks that just lost the guy that turned this team around and gave us credibility even though we had the worst ownership in the NBA.

If free agents are so closed minded and cant think for themselves does anyone really want them here ?? Anyone with an ounce of reasoning ability knows the whole episode is pc bs. I personally want the coach to coach and the gm to do his thing - I dont want Buds attention to detail divided over player personnel matters -

I dont think we need him to shoot we just need a strong force in the middle that can inspire guys to suck itup and lay it all on the court. Noah seems like hes the type to hold everyone accountable.

honestly there as a number of guys that would fit DMC role that are available and cheap - its the system guys - yes we would have to acclimate them and have time to mesh,but its not like we are starting over. We will be fine .

DMC or Milsap is probably gone to be honest. If we can resign DMC he comes off the bench.

Same role as any other player this year - continue to play team ball , spread the floor and hit the open man. I guess are you asking if his role should change to scorer ??? I dont really want to see that happen HOWEVER I do want players that are capable to respond if called on. The primary role would be to eliminate second chance rebounds and score if open.

I think he wont be as worn down through the season . At any rate I dont think Al at center is going to be the answer for our rebounding issues.

WE got some hard choices to make - Dennis upped his game big time over last year so Im thinkingwith a little more seasoning he could do even more Point is we know where we couldnt compete and that rebounding the ball. I love Jeff but in order to get better we have to look hard at what we have - I personally think Dennis can handle it. Its possible we dont make a move until after Christmas - play the first part of the season and see what we have and what we need. BTW AL needs to move to PF. Im bettin ghis ppg goes up with the move.

you aint gonna get a superstar for Jeff - but you can get an all star caliber player that can score when needed and help shut down the inside. We need someone thats gonna fit the system and the system doesnt all for a superstar.

Al has had to match up with bigger guys his whole career . Watch his ppg rise if he doesnt have to wear himself out every game.

besides what do you think any of these 3 guys combined will bring in return - theres no real market for Pero or Brand, and Mike Scott aint gonna bring you that much either. I want someone thats gonna push Al over and start at center.