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Probably the most realistic way to get a big, & to be honest, not bad. If we can get their 1rst or cash, if not, still not bad.

He wasn't worth MLE money, not to mention the push to the tax.

We are not the Lakers. It doesn't go simpler than that. And just in case we aren't in NY, Boston, Miami, Chicago or any other big city that appeals superstars. But, let me be more specific to make you happy: Under normal circumstances &/or based on Hawks FO pattern Horford is untouchable.

Do you think Orlando would swap Howard for Al? Since things like that will never happen, he's untouchable.

OMG, our bench is awful counting out Jamal.

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Amen Amen What r u talking about? It's costing us 120 mill to retain his services. Other than that he would've be a Knick. :lol6:

IMO Horford is the only untouchable. We can trade the rest for the right deal.

Any of those pgs will be cool for the right price.

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For Tabo........he's not available. For Lowry - Teague, filler + 2011 1rst rounder For Mo - Marvin + Teague or Zaza, BB + 2011 1rst rounder For Ford - nothing.

Never mind, the "white chocolate" is done. No good will come from him. Rather trade for Mo Williams or keep playing Jamal at the point some times.

2 2nd round draft picks?

Trade him, Jordan & picks for some stud that can help us win now for the next 3 years at least. No time to wait for development. We are not rebuilding.

Horford out in combination with a predictable offense against one of the best defense in the league was the cause. We need a pg to break defense, and badly.

2 things comes to mind: No PG breaking the defense Horford out But even with horford we will still get a L against elite defense like NO. This team is so easy to guard, so predictable...........

PG's that are or may be available by the deadline: Harris Nash Hinrich (elite defense) Mo Williams (as bad as he is still upgrade over BB. Only for Marvin + filler or BB+Zaza) Calderon (same as MO) Andre Miller Curry? Lowry? Now Centers: Nene? ................... Just give up on the Centers, to hard to find. I think we will be ok with Collins/ Horford & Hack a Shaqers.

No one would take Marvin unless for a similar ugly contract, specially rebuilding teams. Stop dreaming. They don't even need a SF, they have Dorell Wright who's playing better than Marvin for half the $. Josh Smith isn't the post presence they're looking for so stop it too. I bet they would use Curry to dump Biedrins for expirings & picks if that "superstar" doesn't appear & they are lottery bound close to the deadline. In that case Jamal's contract + picks would do it but.......NEXT YEAR WE WILL BE PAYING THE TAX. In situations like that my hate for the ASG peaks.

Playoff teams play the players that help them win now, not in 2 or 3 years. They play only in case of an injury or in garbage time. Not an absolute but happens really often. That's why I'm willing to trade Teague & Jordan + picks for players that help us win immediately for the next 3 years.

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If LD has a clue of how to truly run a motion offense he should be 24/7 demanding a legit PG. It would be really sad to see the same roster getting killed in the 2nd round, that if pass the 1rst.

What is even more sad is that his own fans are always complaining of him not being a true 5, when at least to me, he has done an awesome job on the position. For a motion offense his size is exactly what we need.

Hinrich to me is one of the best defensive player at his position. Any combination of Marvin/BB/Zaza + 2nd round pick & I'm in.

IMO a 6th man is a better role than being a 3rd option in the starting lineup as long as minutes are not an issue. It's all about rotations. Besides, if the coaching staff have no guts to put him on his place then I'm not sure where the biggest problem resides.