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Kirilenko's numbers are 16.1 pts 7.2 rebounds 3.1 assist 2.7 turnovers and he is shooting at 47% from the field. Shareef's numbers are 20.7 pts 9.8 rebounds 2.4 assist 2.3 turnovers and he is shooting 51% from the field. " I don't care what Reefs numbers are. Mostly it's due to lack of offensive options and for the fact Reef gets trash numbers in unimportant games. Every game Reef goes out there it's just playing out the games because his teams never compete for the playoffs. Reef has yet to play an important game and win in his 8 year career.

Reef IS an average defender." Wrong. SAR and Theo are both poor one on one defenders. Reef is soft, weak, small, and has poor awarness. He'd rather just move out of the way than take a charge. Theo averages 3.9 fouls per game...Bad defensive player. He hacks too much and gets eaten alive often. Sorry, those 3 blocks doesn't make up for the poor rebounding and for the fact that almost every center in the league bullies him. "Put him in Utah with a system and coach like theirs ... and Reef looks better" Who doesn't? Shannon Anderson/Matt Harping etc...

This is a funny post...because I have a feeling if JT Reef and Theo played for Sloan and Utah and Arryo AK and Ostertag played in ATL...this post would be totally opposite." I doubt it. JT isn't even a very talented player. All he does is throw up wild shots. Remember when he was on the games two summers ago? Remember how lost he looked? He doesn't look so good when he's not allowed to just go throw up shots at will. Theo has been on the decline for 2 years and he isn't getting any younger.

If Reef was only half the player you think he is...Average? Please....If he was average and Theo was the great defender you guys make him out to be the Hawks wouldn't give up 50PPG in the paint. Andrei is better than Reef.

There is a reason Memphis gave Knight the boot and it's because he's just not a good GM. Anybody that praises what JT has done surely isn't someone you want as your GM.

There is no superstar... But there are good players and we need to find/manufacture some role players. Look at Utah. They are less talented than us but better coached. That's what we need. " WRONG. Carlos Arryo is alot better player than JT is. JT only posts numbers because he's allowed to do what he wants on a structureless team. However, if you put JT in a good system he doesn't have the fundamentals or the overall skills to get the job done. After scoring(mainly because he takes so many shots) his game dies out. I wouldn't trade Kirlenko for Reef at this point. Kirlenko is a well rounded player. Reef is lopsided. Greg Ostertag is better than Theo this year.

Yeah that's a good point. Look at the Magic. Everyone on that team must REALLY suck. They should trade the whole team. Maybe we can get TMac for Glover." A person that tries to use the exception like it's the rule most of the time has really nothing to say. The problem is that the Magic have struggled for 1 year. The hawks have sucked with this same"core" for 3 years and it's honestly not even a talented core. JT/Reef/Theo couldn't net the Hawks Tmac by himself.

New York Post: We're not taking it so hard," said McDyess. "We lose a game, we just leave it in the past and say we lost a game and move on to the next game. "I don't think we take it seriously enough. I take losses hard. Some nights I just sit there, thinking about what I could've done, I should've done. I don't want to point fingers, but I think as a team we need to step up and play a little harder. We can be up, but we stop concentrating and lose the lead" http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/43660.htm This is called loser diease......It's the samething the Hawks do.

Yeah Terry Stotts can't play ball worth a crap. It's all his fault=)

Trading JT isnt enough. THis team doesn't have talent.... Theo Nailon Diaw Dickau Vaughn Stephen Jackson Henderson Mohammad None of those games are NBA starters. Theo is one of the most limited players in the NBA now. He had some offense in Philly, but that's clearly gone now.

materialize" Yeah, kinda like the team is materializing now, right? I suppose the team is only a step away from stardom right? Everyone possible on this team should be traded. They are losers. If this wasn't they'd win. All this coach whinning a bunch of crud.

I'd do the insider deal and send Reef to Utah for 1st round pick and Keon Clark. I'd then proceed to trade Theo Ratliff..... Reef probably really would be a star in Utah because Sloan would get him over the hump. I think it would serve as a good benefit to booth parties.

My problem with Billy Knight is his thinking that everything is grand right now and nothing needs to be done. Hello, this is the second worst team in the league and thinks no moves need to be made? What kind of moron is he?

I wouldn't have a problem with him cussing out management or the team if he hadn't been playing like shyt himself.

We see how much Billy Knight cares about winning. No wonder he was Pete's friend....

Both the Colts and Titans are frauds. The Eagles will win the championship.

Was this one of Reefs 3 period performances? He had a good game obviosally..but someone said he spent most of the 4th period turning the ball over.

Statwise it looks like Big Z whiped Theo pretty good. Man Theo has been terrible this year. Other than blocked shots you can't point to anything he's really done.

Ok I was wronmg about the Boozer thing. But this effort should prove once and for all that this team isn't overall talented enough to compete. You guys should realize that now.

Where was everyone else??? I didn't see the game, but Reef had 43/12 and the not only lost but could still only muster 85 points? This has to be the worst supporting cast in NBA history. If Billy Knight doesn't do anything about this before the allstar break it's proof he's a terrible GM and should see his what out the door.

Who won the game?=)

I'll take a look. Haven't kept up with the team lately because my team sucks.

Whatever excuses you got to throw out...The Bucks where still a mediocre team IN THE EAST even with the all great Gary Payton. Campbell was a good player...... As for Horry... http://www.nba.com/lakers/stats/stats_1996.html http://www.nba.com/lakers/stats/stats_1997.html Btw, that team averaged 105PPG on 48% shooting..Lets seem if this years Lakers do that...

Well Fox was a decent player with Boston and his first two years with the Lakers. But he really isn't that good anymore...I take a crap on Luke Waltons skills. He's LA's new Mark Madsen.

Payton is not that good of a defender anymore. Remember just two years ago when Tony Parker slaughtered Payton? That part of his game has declined. And what did Payton do for the Bucks last year? He surely didn';t improve them once he got there. The otherteam should be better because you have 5 really good players starting and not just 4. And that bench was stronger with a younger Fox/Horry coming off the bench as opposed to scrubs like Luke Walton/Bryon Russell and Horce Grant. Depth counts for something.