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quote] do you see trends? Yeah I see the trends I see the streks but I know that they have to play ball for a whole season at a time. You can't run a marathon at full speed the whole way. Don't get me wrong I have threw many a fits watching the game (knowing that I would or would not have done what they did being the pro that I am ) because I was fustrated. But I do understand that 1) this is a young team. 2) They have not been playing that long together. 3)This is the begining of the season not even a full 2 months 1/4 of the games. These things keep me sane. I gives me hope for the second half of the season. We are still in this.

I wonder if they will let the fans vote on the colors?

What are we trying to accomplish here on our board? As you can see I have been a "member" of the board for quite a while with relatively very few posts. I love to read from you guys your opinions, your fustrations, your GM caliber trade ideals, ECT. What I don't understand is what is there to argue about? I assume that, except for the occasional visitors that everyone on Hawksquawk is a fan. We are all hoping, suggesting, wanting, and waiting for a better team always. Now understanding the exchange of ideals, fustrations and opinions, I just want to know where all this judgment is coming from. I mean if LeBron breaks Wades ankles and dunks on O’Neal does that say that Shaq should not be a starting center because he can’t back up his guard and defend the lane. If Kobe scores 80 points by himself does that say the other coach did not assess the situation and make what he felt were the necessary changes ? What I am saying is great things happen but not that often. More often a team may play sub-par and most of the time just average. But what do you really want from your team? I just want a competitive game more wins then losses and I hope for a Championship. But think about it if Jordan and the Bulls won every single game for 6 seasons, I would not watch the NBA anymore. What for? You know the outcome. People, Lue is not going to be hot every night nor is JJ. J Smooth is still young and young people make young mistakes. That is not just in basketball. The same goes for most of our team. Now I have suffered the past 8 years along side the rest of you. The sad part is the fans have suffered a lot longer than anyone in the organization. We can’t judge our players on a few games if you do we will have a team full of Jon Koncaks, Alan Henderson’s, and Chris Crawford’s. Give the team a chance. Wait till all the pieces are together the way it was designed. Then give your opinions on the design. Until you have all the information surrounding what you see, let’s not make judgments let’s just keep it to opinions. I hope this makes since I was trying to give you the abridge version on what I am trying to say. I can get long winded.

I have my room painted in Hawks colors with all the free stuff that I get from games posted all over the walls. I used to keep player posters however having posters of Boris D,Dan D, Dione Glover, Jason Terry just don't seem to go well in the room. But now they want to change the colors?!!?!?!?! I can deal with new logos I mean I have two different logos anyway, But not the colors. I would have to start all over. None of my free stuff would match the new colors. What is a fan to do?

I am just going to through my week two cents in here. Imho when you have a Sun it makes stars seem a little dull. That being said whenever you have a superstar someone that would otherwise have shined due to necessity takes a back seat. To use another metaphor if you are right-handed, you use your right hand so much that your left hand does not get as strong. This is because it is not forced to live up to its potential. I think that the absence of JJ (the right hand) would have forced the left hand (JS, MW, JC, ECT). To say that Bk did a bad job would be inconclusive at this juncture.

I would not say I was critical of him nor had any high expectations of him for that matter. What I was upset/disappointed with was the trivial mistakes he made. I mean I played the 3 sometimes 4 position for whatever short lived career I had in basketball. I don't know how much of this was player and how much of this was coach but when I played once I received a rebound the very next motion or thought was look for the open/running guard. To see smooth going coast to coast was like watching a man in a dress. It just did not feel right. To watch Smooth jump out of the building on the first pump fake just made my flesh crawl. Yes he has a lot of blocked shots but any player knows that once you leave your feet you are out of the play. If I get you to jump no matter how slow I am I have you beaten now; thus the use of a pump fake. The third thing that stands out to me was the 3pt shooting. Granted the end of last year he was butta. I think at some point in time any one shooting a basketball that misses 3 in a row will change something, even if it’s the mistake of passing instead of shooting. But it seems as if he will shoot 1 for 10 if it took that long to get a shot. That was my frustration not my criticism of Josh Smith.

I have to admit he has shown some improvement this month. His handles even looked better.

I will be there getting my statue. I am glad it is not a bobble head. Looks pretty nice from what I saw on TV last night.

Ok I know he shoots a lot and sometimes at bad times. That’s all relative. Cause sometimes I see Joe taking some shots that I would rather have seen something else happen but when it goes in no one notices. Take the same shot selection from Smooth if they go in no one complains. It’s all relative. Now my complaint and it seems no one notices this, Why in the hell is Josh taking the ball coast to coast? I have seen this happen oh too many times. He can not dribble if he does not loose the ball before he gets to the other side he is not ever able to finish. How does a coach sit on the side and watch this? Is it me; or unless your the only one down court or you are a guard type player it is/should be instinctive to get the ball to a ball handler. I hate it every time he does it why is he still on the court to do it back to back. I have been to a game and he would do it twice in one quarter where is my coach. I want to go down and take him out my d@mn self. Yes I am upset at this. I was/am a josh smith fan. But dang enough is enough. I would love him to get better, to be our franchise player but at what coast. COACHES PLEASE SHOW HIM THE ER OF HIS WAYS. Manufacture him a highlight film of his mistakes and ask “Did you see that?” don’t do that ____ anymore.

I was hoping you would do this again. How ironic, this will be the first home game I miss this year(no not a season ticket holder yet, my pockets are not that deep). I will be out of town visiting the old home of the Hawks. Yup I will be in St. Louis. Me and my boys will just have to find a local sports bar and root for the home team past and present.

And I am glad to see a positive post. Nothing bad Just things to be glad about. The true thanksgiving spirit.

is speedy or Marvin coming back to?

When he runs it causes movement in his hand which in turn creates a minor discomfort. This is a distraction and he can no longer concentrate on running thus not getting the full benefit of running. Until he could get the full benefit of running he could not get in to game shape. You have to give the man a break; he was at home and could not use his finger to control the remote he had to totally rely on voice commands for all the electronic devices in his home.

yup I'm there too.

Maybe we can make use of our hawksquawk shirt again. I will be there with my shirt on. Oh yes and have a happy B-day.

Dude I am right around the corner from you in Conley down bouldercreast a bit. We could carpool to some of the games. Cheaper on the parking.

I thought it was hard for me when I traveled a lot to different cities that have another NBA team. They never seem to play the Hawks when I am there and there were never home when I was home. But I see that there are Hawks fans that rarly see a Hawks game live. I am proud of you guys. Then we have Hawks fans right here in the City that never go to the games. Shame on them. We want the Hawks to be good but we will not be there to cheer them on. what does that really say about us?

Let us know what games you will be attending. Maybe some of us can stop by and chat a bit.

Seeing all the out of towners here I just wanted to know how many people are here vs out-of-towners and then the way out-of-towners. I would have put this in the other thread but I was not sure how to add a poll to an existing thread.

Grew up in College park. Been around the world and now back to a small town (Conley,Ga) in dekalb CO. Most of you know the area of Ellenwood. Been a Hawks fan all my life.

So I guess this was a fluke huh.

You know what is funny to me is that you have responded twice and have yet to answer the question. Are you one of those people that feel stupid when you don't understand something so you talk about it in a bad way so that you can feel good about something, no matter how stupid you look to anyone else?

Thank you.

Is it me or is tomorrows game a sell out? I can't seem to get any tickets.

I agree. We complain year after year about the team but we fail to support what we have on the floor. I work the evening shift and I still have managed to go to at least 6 or 7 games this year. I don' t expect you to make them all. But those who can should. showthem your support so maybe they will put a little more effort on the floor.