Anyone still thing the Hawks DON'T need a pg?

[exodus]

The Hawks have 12 turnovers at the half to a team who gives up over 101 ppg on defense. They had 12 turnovers at the half against Detroit too.

JJ has 6 turnovers at the half. I love his game but he isn't a pg.

[Lascar78]

I still think we need a PG, but I no longer think it has to be a pure distributor to get the young guns involved. I think we need a PG who will not be a ball hog, will bring the ball up under pressure, can play D, and can run the break.

It is clear that we want JJ holding the ball a lot on offense, and it is equally clear that we don't want him bringing it up

[Seano]

Giving up 67 points at the half.....wow.

[exodus]

It might be my imagination but it seems like Al is giving a lot more effort on D than he normally does.

The Hawks just didn't come out ready to play tonight.

[exodus]

nobody else had more than 5. I think the Hawks may be starting to wear down.

Nice to see Marvin and Smith both get over 20.

[thesheedera]

I only saw bits and pieces of the 3rd and 4th quarter. Saw Marvin taking his man off the dribble a couple times and getting to the rack, looking great, but not converting. Saw him looking pretty lazy at times too.

Can anyone add a little description to the stats I'm looking at? Were all his points after the game was decided, or was he also productive while it was still a competition?

[warcore]

our starting pg didn't have any turnovers. the others played poorly

[Dukegotgame]

marvin actually was in double figures before halftime i believe

[dalamchops]

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I only saw bits and pieces of the 3rd and 4th quarter. Saw Marvin taking his man off the dribble a couple times and getting to the rack, looking great, but not converting. Saw him looking pretty lazy at times too.

Can anyone add a little description to the stats I'm looking at? Were all his points after the game was decided, or was he also productive while it was still a competition?

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the game was decided in the 1st quarter..

[thesheedera]

the game was probably decided at the tip

still would be nice to get some description on how marvin played from someone who watched it

all i caught were missed shots and open looks for korver, obviously i missed a lot if he went 8-12 and had 21

little love for thesheedera?

[rascurrein]

Me.

We need a center, RIGHT NOW.

So we need to take a look for the draft, and make a good selection.

We don't have a legit 5, and maybe this is the reason for the TO. We don't have a pass option at the low post.

[thesheedera]

I think its safe to say we need both.

[exodus]

This is the first time I can remember when he drove and looked like he was trying to score instead of trying to draw a foul.

Usually he goes in and dives into someone out of control. This time he was going straight up and had some nice finishes in the lane. He popped a nice 3 too.

[Jdawgflow]

I can't remember for sure, but as I recall, Marvin seemed to play fairly consistent throughout.

The player of the game for Hawks, though, definately had to be Childress. He was everywhere and gave it everything he had. (Many of the other guys did, too. We just don't have enough good players to hang with anyone in a fast tempo game IMO).

[exodus]

My Marvin post was meant to be directed to you obviously.

[rascurrein]

We have a lot of SF who plays as PG, so what i mean is that if we put a center who can play at the low post we could be able to take an advantage taking the ball out for a clean shot from middle range.

Ball in and out to shoot. But we need a 5.

[exodus]

Everyone knows we need a center. But some people here don't think we need a point guard also.

[rascurrein]

There are priorities, and i think that we need more a center than a PG. We need both, but for #1 draft i will be go for a 5.

[joannes3000]

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We have a lot of SF who plays as PG, so what i mean is that if we put a center who can play at the low post we could be able to take an advantage taking the ball out for a clean shot from middle range.

Ball in and out to shoot. But we need a 5.

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I couldn't agree more. We have a good amount of ball handlers on the team but not someone that we can point at and say "there's our floor leader". Even someone like a Brevin Knight who mainly distributes would work wonders for the entire team. We would have someone to break the press/trap as well as someone that could free up everyone else to create without the ball in their hands.

With that said, I also agree that our bigger need is down low. As much as it would help to have a bonafide PG, I think a C would help more. We would reduce points allowed in the paint and have someone that could open things up for the shooters also.

Either way, I think we could definitely benefit from both positions but a post defender looks more available in the draft versus a floor general.

[Buzzard]

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The Hawks have 12 turnovers at the half to a team who gives up over 101 ppg on defense. They had 12 turnovers at the half against Detroit too.

JJ has 6 turnovers at the half. I love his game but he isn't a pg.

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No he is not, but he does not need a true pg either. He averages about three turnovers a game. JJ's assist to turn over ratio has been 2 to 1 his whole career and that has not gone up this year despite almost doubling his highest assist total in his career by year end.

A center is much more vital, then a PG/SG who can help with bringing he ball up and also adding some defensive pressure would be nice...

We are not far from being a complete team and a center is in my opinion #1 priority....