JJJJ Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Another rookie making an impact is Atlanta’s Al Horford. In the games he’s started (17 as center, one as power forward), his opposing position player has averaged 8.3 points per game. That’s the lowest average versus any starter in the NBA (minimum 15 starts). And the .389 field-goal percentage by opposing starters is the lowest versus any frontcourt starter.. http://www.nba.com/statistics/stats_week7_071217.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 18, 2007 Moderators Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Very interesting number, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 If we want to get this team in gear - seriously in gear - we play Al at PF. Find a center - somewhere - just find him. and a PG wouldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSomerset Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Quote: If we want to get this team in gear - seriously in gear - we play Al at PF. Find a center - somewhere - just find him. and a PG wouldn't hurt. I don't see any reason to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldBFree Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Horford, Smith, MWilliams, Johnson, and Law are the best 5, especially in terms of a reasonable starting five. Hawks need another SG that can play D more than they need a C at this point. Shelden and Zaza can provide enough backup minutes at C to get by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I know he has been good on D...but not THAT good! Horford is really showing everyone what they thought he could do and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I loved Lloyd Free btw... But if we want to have the best team we can have we put Al at PF. JS at SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Quote: Horford, Smith, MWilliams, Johnson, and Law are the best 5, especially in terms of a reasonable starting five. Hawks need another SG that can play D more than they need a C at this point. Shelden and Zaza can provide enough backup minutes at C to get by. Agreed. 5 guys who can push the floor. If it's not broke, why fix it? So many people are stuck in the coventional frame of mind with the 7 footer. Clearly Al has shown he is capable of playing C in this league and clearly the dominant 7 footer isn't exactly prevalent in the league as it used to be. What we really need to do is let Mario West get more playing time as well as Solomon Jones I know Solomon can be just as effective as Zaza and Shelden on D. And he's athletic enough to run the floor on O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSomerset Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Quote: I know Solomon can be just as effective as Zaza and Shelden on D. And he's athletic enough to run the floor on O. No way, he is WAAAAAY too weak. Even Zaza is stronger than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Quote: Even Zaza is stronger than him. What good does strength do for Zaza when he bites on every single pump fake and doesn't know how to play zone defense? Solomon makes up for his lack of bulk with athleticism. The dude has the highest extension on paper in the entire NBA. Even higher than Dwight Howard. He is a longer version of Tyrus Thomas basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSomerset Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Quote: Quote: Even Zaza is stronger than him. What good does strength do for Zaza when he bites on every single pump fake and doesn't know how to play zone defense? Solomon makes up for his lack of bulk with athleticism. The dude has the highest extension on paper in the entire NBA. Even higher than Dwight Howard. He is a longer version of Tyrus Thomas basically. He also is a fouling machine, and isn't really good for much except how fast he can run from one end of the court to another. There's a reason he gets no PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 OK - here we go - I agree 100% on Mario. Solomon is a waste of time...he is nowhere near as effective as Zaza or Shelden. I'm not saying we can't be a GOOD team with A.H. as center - only that we can be a VERY GOOD team with him at the 4. As long as we can find a center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Quote: He also is a fouling machine, and isn't really good for much except how fast he can run from one end of the court to another. There's a reason he gets no PT. And Zaza is a fouling machine who can't rebound. Solo can rebound. Solo hasn't even been given enough PT this year for you to even say he's a fouling machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Quote: Quote: Even Zaza is stronger than him. What good does strength do for Zaza when he bites on every single pump fake and doesn't know how to play zone defense? Solomon makes up for his lack of bulk with athleticism. The dude has the highest extension on paper in the entire NBA. Even higher than Dwight Howard. He is a longer version of Tyrus Thomas basically. Very astute comments that I totally agree with. Solomon Jones needs to play more. Period. End of story. Zaza may have a lot more weight and a few inches on him, but what good does that do when you consistently play BELOW your weight and height. Zaza is 280 pounds...but plays like he is 180. It's ridiculous. Is Solomon Dwight Howard, Shaq, Mourning, Stoudemire, or some other legit big? No. Solomon is an athletic big that admittedly needs to get stronger; however, he can provide great athleticism, rebounding, blocked shots in limited PT. All he does is ride the pine. My Dad and I say all the time, "Woody is going to lose this kid if he doesn't play him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLaS Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Boy, Horford's standing reach is killing him. I'm sure a certain group of Squawkers will be quiet in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Quote: Boy, Horford's standing reach is killing him. I'm sure a certain group of Squawkers will be quiet in this thread. Im above that stuff. The Marvin vs Smoove factions and all the other ridiculous stuff going on is childish. I swear people have to be divided along something don't they? Even among a single team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Neither one of them are all that good. Zaza is better than Solo though - primarily based on strength. Zaza is a good backup C. Solo should not be in the nba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Quote: Neither one of them are all that good. Zaza is better than Solo though - primarily based on strength. Zaza is a good backup C. Solo should not be in the nba. Based on what? The guy doesn't even get a freaking chance! We wouldn't even know that Mario West belonged in the NBA unless by fluke we had all these injuries We just happened to have more depth down low than in our backcourt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted December 19, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Quote: But if we want to have the best team we can have we put Al at PF. JS at SF. Poster just can't let this sh_t go! Anyone who thinks that JS is a better Small forward than Marvin or better at Small forward than at power forward can't be watching too many games. Let me make this clear, JS is the 4th best Small forward on this team behind JJ, Marvin and Childress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 you have a point on Mario. I just don't think Solo can play. I might be wrong, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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