DS17Fanboy Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) I just visited the Bulls forum, curious about the sentiment around the Rose injury and most members around there feel their team should tank for this season and trade away whatever they have for lottery picks and expiring contracts. Chicago has some nice pieces Hawks could use, like Noah, Boozer, or Deng. Maybe Millsap, Carrol/Korver, Schröder/Mack, Jenkins/Scott + picks for a combo of two of these three players? Edited November 26, 2013 by DS17Fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't think Chicago will have a fire sale immediately, they played without Rose last season and still made 2nd round of playoffs.I would take Deng if he will sign a reasonable contract (free agent next season). I will take Noah in a heartbeat. No need for Boozer and his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS17Fanboy Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Yeah but it feels like they are traumatized waiting for so long and then this happening again. Their team is getting older and as you said Deng turns FA. They dont know how Rose will come back and it costs them allot of cap-space. Them tanking would make allot more sense than all the talk of Atlanta tanking with two young star players and then some. They know they maybe get the 2nd round again in this weak east but then what? They have a club attitude based on its history and based on 2011 where since then they held hope to become a championship team as long as Rose is on the team. That ambition is crushed ATM. Doing nothing on trades and picks and just waiting for the messiah to return and hoping his knees stay with him next time is a bad strategy I think. Edited November 26, 2013 by DS17Fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Would love to re-unite Noah and Horford Somehow, I don't believe that this will happen unless we give them Horford andI sure don't want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS17Fanboy Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Noah for Bebe, Millsap, Carrol and that Nets pick? Maybe add in Teague Jr for Schröder. Hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Noah for Bebe, Millsap, Carrol and that Nets pick? Maybe add in Teague Jr for Schröder. HeheWe will not be trading that Nets pick - no way, no how! Not with the possibilities that it comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS17Fanboy Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) What about adding Deng and Teague Jr to the Noah deal and send Elton Brand together with Bebe, Millsap, Carrol, Schröder and that pick to Chicago? I mean Noah and Deng is better than having that thread. Admit its more about the thread. hehe In Germany we say "Vorfreude ist die schönste Freude" translating into The joy of anticipation is the greatest of joys". I'd rather have some dudes who can be key players than some pick that might never happen and bench players + Millsap you got in abundance. Imo that would look a real TEAM-TEAM enough to be srs contenders for conference finals. Edited November 26, 2013 by DS17Fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakaFlocka Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'd rather just let the Bulls suffer. Let's be real, with Rose out again Stern is going to find a way to give the Bulls a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeltdown Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Love to have Noah for Millsap and the right to Bebe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted November 26, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Yes a million times over for Noah! He isn't the scorer I desire, but he is the perfect center for this team by how Bud/Ferry are wanting to run things. No center in the league plays with more heart, fire, and energy than Noah. And he's Horf boy, so I'd love my Rockets/Bulls/Hawks trade + the Lakers in this instance: Bulls receive:PF - Pau Gasol ($19.2 mil)C - Omer Asik ($8.8 mil)G - Lou Williams ($5.2 mil)G - Steve Nash ($9.3 mil, would likely retire after trade)Total: $42.5 mil; $42.5 mil out; Sends out 4 players, receives 4 players and a ton of picks Rockets receive:PF - Paul Millsap ($9.5 mil)Total: $9.5 mil in; $8.8 mil out; Sends out 1 player, receives 1 player Hawks receive:G - Jimmy Butler ($1.1 mil)C - Joakim Noah ($13.0 mil)Total: $15.2 mil; $14.7 mil out; Sends out 2 players, receives 2 players Lakers receive:PF - Carlos Boozer ($15.3 mil)SF - Luol Deng ($14.3 mil)Total: $29.6 mil: $29.6 mil out; Sends out 2 players, receives 2 players Although this trade can't happen until Dec. 15th, the Rockets benefit by getting an actual PF that can hit the three ball which opens up the paint not only for DH12, but for Harden as well. Bulls benefit by achieving part of their "firesale" and getting short-length contracts to gain future cap space. Lakers get two guys to keep Kobe happy for the year and a TON of cap space in 2014 (I can hear the LBJ chants now). Hawks benefit by finally getting the center that Horf wants and gets Horf to where he belongs. Gives us a front court duo that can give us 8 great seasons. The lineups: HoustonC - Dwight HowardPF - Paul MillsapSF - Chandler ParsonsSG - James HardenPG - Jeremy Lin6th - Terrence Jones AtlantaC - Joakim NoahPF - Al HorfordSF - Kyle KorverSG - Jimmy ButlerPG - Jeff Teague6th - Shelvin Mack ChicagoC - Omer AsikPF - Pau GasolSF - Mike DunleavySG - Kirk HinrichPG - Derrick Rose/Steve Nash6th - Steve Nash/Lou Williams LA LakersC - Jordan HillPF - Carlos BoozerSF - Luol DengSG - Kobe BryantPG - Steve Blake6th - Nick Young Bulls gutted w/ $25 mil+ in cap space to work with in 2014 (-20 wins). Lakers dump broken Nash and Kobe is happy with Deng and Boozer (+3 wins). Hawks get a center (+4 wins) and Rockets get a PF (+7 wins). Works on ESPN trade machine. Boom diggity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFuzz Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Noah would be sick. I would not trade Schröder/Nets pick for him, but if they full blown tank let's bring Noah in. Deng is decent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Yes a million times over for Noah! He isn't the scorer I desire, but he is the perfect center for this team by how Bud/Ferry are wanting to run things. No center in the league plays with more heart, fire, and energy than Noah. And he's Horf boy, so I'd love my Rockets/Bulls/Hawks trade + the Lakers in this instance: Bulls receive: PF - Pau Gasol ($19.2 mil) C - Omer Asik ($8.8 mil) G - Lou Williams ($5.2 mil) G - Steve Nash ($9.3 mil, would likely retire after trade) Total: $42.5 mil; $42.5 mil out; Sends out 4 players, receives 4 players and a ton of picks Rockets receive: PF - Paul Millsap ($9.5 mil) Total: $9.5 mil in; $8.8 mil out; Sends out 1 player, receives 1 player Hawks receive: G - Jimmy Butler ($1.1 mil) C - Joakim Noah ($13.0 mil) Total: $15.2 mil; $14.7 mil out; Sends out 2 players, receives 2 players Lakers receive: PF - Carlos Boozer ($15.3 mil) SF - Luol Deng ($14.3 mil) Total: $29.6 mil: $29.6 mil out; Sends out 2 players, receives 2 players Although this trade can't happen until Dec. 15th, the Rockets benefit by getting an actual PF that can hit the three ball which opens up the paint not only for DH12, but for Harden as well. Bulls benefit by achieving part of their "firesale" and getting short-length contracts to gain future cap space. Lakers get two guys to keep Kobe happy for the year and a TON of cap space in 2014 (I can hear the LBJ chants now). Hawks benefit by finally getting the center that Horf wants and gets Horf to where he belongs. Gives us a front court duo that can give us 8 great seasons. The lineups: Houston C - Dwight Howard PF - Paul Millsap SF - Chandler Parsons SG - James Harden PG - Jeremy Lin 6th - Terrence Jones Atlanta C - Joakim Noah PF - Al Horford SF - Kyle Korver SG - Jimmy Butler PG - Jeff Teague 6th - Shelvin Mack Chicago C - Omer Asik PF - Pau Gasol SF - Mike Dunleavy SG - Kirk Hinrich PG - Derrick Rose/Steve Nash 6th - Steve Nash/Lou Williams LA Lakers C - Jordan Hill PF - Carlos Boozer SF - Luol Deng SG - Kobe Bryant PG - Steve Blake 6th - Nick Young Bulls gutted w/ $25 mil+ in cap space to work with in 2014 (-20 wins). Lakers dump broken Nash and Kobe is happy with Deng and Boozer (+3 wins). Hawks get a center (+4 wins) and Rockets get a PF (+7 wins). Works on ESPN trade machine. Boom diggity. Great trade idea, but do you think Chicago would accept Brand instead of Williams so they can tank harder? If so, we would have a great roster heading into next season PG:Teague/Mack/Schröder SG:Butler/Williams/Jenkins SF:Korver/Carroll/Martin PF:Horford/Scott/Muscala or any scrub C:Noah/Bebe/Ayón Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebert Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think Chicago won't do any big deals. But if we could trade with them, I would ask for Tony Snell. I think he can be a starter in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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