hotboyj Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Maybe we should start getting him out of their future plans. Come on, you can come up with something better reason to get rid of Al. Al can definitely improve his ft%, as can the rest of our team. Just be patient. We do need him, and as said before if someone is better than Al they should start. If they're not they should pay their dues just as Al did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Al has no shot blocking abilities, his shot is mediocre, he can't hit ft's, he doesn't play the slightest bit of defense and he is a mediocre rebounder. C'mon.... 7 lousy rebounds in 39MPG? Not to mention he averages 3.1 turn overs a game.... He fouls too much.... 3.8 fouls per game. Al doesn't do much of anything all THAT well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Al just isn't a below average FT shooter... He is an average rebounder at best. Also, his turnovers are way too high. There are only two other SF/PF's in the top 15 in turnovers other than Al and they are Walker (5th) and KG (15th) so that isn't a very good stat for him. How does a PF with his athletic ability average .24 blocks per game in 39MPG? That's just sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboyj Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Of course he is going to be a bad defender. They all are going to fly right past him. We haven't seen more than like 2 games of Al starting at pf. Lets see what happens then say if he is or isn't a good defender. For a pf Al has a pretty good shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Al can't defend PF's either. He is a tweener plain and simple. PF's will overpower him. At 6'9 and 250 pounds he likely isn't to fair alot better. A the four he is even worse because I doubt a move to PF is going to increase his rebounding very much.. He simply isn't that good of a rebounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 that's about the worst logic, regardless of stance on the 'al issue'... neither can duncan. he thereby should not be in teh spurs long term plans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted August 22, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Al is a guy you can count on to score. Period. His FT might not be great. His Defense is just average. He doesn't block shots. He may commit turnvoers... BUT You don't have to worry about Al putting up 25 points one night and 2 points the next. Right now, that's the disease that JSmoove has. JSmoove has that disease becuase he doesn't have a real offensive game other than putbacks and finishing on the break. Keeping Al and Tony is smart because you don't bring in a great scorer to be your only Scorer. Defenses will crowd JJ like crazy if we trade Al. However, I think that both Al and JJ can prosper from having each other. Lastly who do you propose getting for Al. I don't want to hear another Al for Pick or Al for floor Popcorn. That makes no sense. It forces us into a situation where none of our pieces will be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 in the long run i agree marvin will get the start but i don't think he is ready to start just yet although he'll get plenty of playing time. i think harrington will be a deadline trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Al can score if he shoots and hogs the ball which is what he does. Al doesn't nothing that well as I said... When he has the ball in his hands the entire offense comes to a halt. Lots of guys can score points. Big deal. Nobody cares about Al Harrington. Simple as that. Al Harrington isn't why attendance went up the second half of last year. The Hawks aren't winning this year period... With that being the case you start the guys that will excite the crowd. It isn't like a team is going to win because of Al Harrington anyway. He isn't that type of difference maker. "It forces us into a situation where none of our pieces will be effective." AL doesn't make anybody better anyway. I believe Al should be kept until the allstar break, but should be gone by then unless he can accept the role he had in Indy... No matter if he likes it or not, that's the role he is most effective in... His 12/6 in 30MPG off the bench is more effective than his 17/7 in 39MPG starting. "I think that both Al and JJ can prosper from having each other." They aren't a good enough combo to win games as the two main guys. The Hawks are really building towards having a team scoring type of thing... Well Al is a ball hog. If the Hawks are going to win, it's going to be because they score well as a team sort of like a Detroit... Be cause I don't see none of the Hawks players as a future superstar... Just a bunch of really good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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