Sorry but guys like Joe Smith, Mo Evans and yes even ZaZa (Celtics anyone) have all been adequate reserves their entire career. Only you would argue this. Time to realize you are wrong about Woody. The fans now know it, sports writers know it, broadcasters know it and most importantly the Hawks organization knows it. You can keep being in denial about the man but unfortunately for you you're on what is now a very short list of Woody supporters. I think there's you and a couple of other guys on here and that's it. That should tell you a little something about what you perceive as factual.