Antmillennium

Gortat probably became more attractive than ZaZa because he can actually jump as is more athletic than Zaza. I believe Gortat blocked LeBron James' shot a couple of times. Zaza couldn't block LeBron's shot if his life depended on it. His vertical is about 5 inches.

Salim was no worse than Mike Bibby on defense.

You forgot about Boris Diaw. Furthermore, Woody absolutely killed Salim's confidence. That boy was a gunner, and Woody had him afraid to shoot. Yet, he let a guy like Flip shoot all he wanted. I firmly believe that if Woody had given Salim the freedom to shoot like he gave Flip, Salim would have been a pretty good scorer for us off the bench.

Somehow, some way, Woody will find a reason not to play Teague.

So, what's going to be Woodson's excuse when he starts playing Flip or some other veteran at PG instead of Teague? I honestly think Woodson has no idea how to develop young talent. It's going to be interesting to watch how this thing plays out during the season. If Teague is rotting away on the bench while Woodson plays somebody like Flip at PG, I'm not going to hear any excuses from Woodson about how Teaague "is not getting it" and etc... That will validate for me beyond all doubt that Woodson is a confidence/career killer for young players.

Hey, if she can't keep her teeth out of the way, what do you want me to say??? :laugh:

Exactly. There should be some sort of rule that states a team can't pick 3 PGs in the 1st round. LOL.

I like the trade. Crawford can score, and I love a player that can score. If this means that we're letting Bibby walk, then I absolutely love the trade. Bibby was basically just a shooter out there. We can get a taller guy that can just shoot.

OK. Both players are suffering from the same bad coaching. Smith has done better with that same bad coaching than Horford has. Yet, you say that you would take Horford way before Smith??? :eek: That just doesn't really make any sense.

Forget Horford. The Hawks are the most poorly coached team in the NBA. You act as if it's just Horford that is suffering from a bad coach. Everybody on the team is suffering from Woodson's ineptitude. If Horford would do better under better coaching, then so would Josh Smith.

Exactly. Horford has shown very little on offense, and people act as if he'll magically turn into a scoring machine if you switch him to the 4. It's just insane.

If the Hawks trade Josh Smith in favor of keeping Mike Woodson, I'll never again watch another Hawks' game. Mike Woodson is not the kind of coach you get rid of players for. You bring in a much better coach than Woodson, see how Josh Smith responds, and then you get rid of Smith if he can't get his act together.

I was disappointed with Sund's comments as well. It sounds as if he was in full agreement with the way Woody handled the team. I don't want to put too much emphasis on what a GM says. Therefore, I'll just wait to see what he actually does. However, I was extremely disappointed with his interview and I was totally deflated when he said that Woody would definitely be coming back.

It's not surprising, but it's still depressing. Unless Sund makes some good moves during the offseason, I have absolutely nothing to be excited about for the upcoming season. I'll just hope that Josh Smith improves his shooting tremendously this offseason.

Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about here. 'Nique came back with a vengeance after his Achilles tendon tear. It seemed as if he was jumping higher after the injury than before the injury.

Ofensive coach or no offensive coach, Woodson just needs to go. He's supposed to be a defensive guy, but his defensive scheme sucks too. He's not smart enough to make adjustments on offense or defense. He needs to be replaced.

Exactly. Woodson is THE BIGGEST problem with this team. Not removing Woodson would just be irresponsible at this point.

I'm shocked. I didn't even watch the game last night. My wife wanted to go to the movies, so I went ahead and took her. I figured that I might as well make my wife happy by going to the movies and avoid making myself miserable by watching the Hawks' game.

Woody: "I wish we had a healthier team" Me: "I wish Woody knew what a 'pick and roll' is."

Schultz is spot-on about Joe Johnson. I'd trade Joe Johnson way before I trade Josh Smith.

Joe doesn't have that fire burning in his gut.

Good. That should mean that he should have no problem re-signing for the minimum, then.

Well, the worst starting PG in the NBA just sliced up L.A. with 35 points, and Kobe just compared the worst PG in the NBA to Tony Parker and said that he's a good player. With the way it's looking for the Hawks right now, I'd probably love to have the worst starting PG in the NBA on the Hawks. Although, Mike Woodson would probably never play him......

In that case, your comment of "short sighted and simplistic at best" was really misplaced. I didn't say that firing Woody would be the answer to all of our problems. I said that you should fire Woody first, AND THEN go from there. You've got to start somewhere. I have pretty much the same thoughts as you about the situation. However, I don't think you can make an absolute judgment about the team without seeing what another coach can do with the team first.

Actually, it's not short-sighted at all. Trying to defend Woodson, as if he is a good coach or something, is what's short-sighted and simplistic at best. Even with all of the "right" pieces, Mike Woodson is still not a coach that will bring you a championship. Mike Woodson is not a positive difference-maker on the sidelines, and he is actually retarding the growth of the young players. Therefore, there is absolutely no logic or common sense in keeping him on the sidelines and trying to find the right "combination of players" that he can win a championship with. You'll be searching for that combination of players forever, while not really knowing the true potential of the players that are already here. They need to bring in a better coach than Woodson and then see what the true potential of this team is. Once you see what the true potential of the team is, then you can make an educated decision about what moves the team needs to make. Trying to make moves to improve the team while Mike Woodson is at the helm is like peeing in the wind.