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Aaron Brooks NEVER would have been given a chance with Woody. Woody even managed to kill Saalim Stoudemire's confidence, and that boy had confidence out of this world as a rookie. Mike Woodson is not cut out to be an NBA head coach. He'll have the young players afraid to shoot, but he'll let veterans get away with shooting the most asinine of shots.

The biggest problem with the Hawks right now is Mike Woodson. Get rid of Mike Woodson, bring in a competent coach, and then go from there.

I agree. Woodson is a confidence killer to young players. He also retards their growth. I can't think of one player that has gotten better because of Woodson. Boris Diaw looked like he didn't even belong in the league under Woodson.

Woody seems to have a knack for crushing young players' confidence.

Don't get me wrong, I never really cared for him. However, after what the Hawks did in the playoffs last year, I only though it was proper to give him another season or two to see what he could do. However, based upon how poorly the Hawks play on the road, and looking at how we have a poor offensive system AND a poor defensive scheme, Woodson doesn't even deserve another year. He's not good at any phase of the game. I know he doesn't have the type of team that can actually win a championship, but he's also not the type of coach that can win a championship. He's not the type of coach that can maximize a team's potential. If anyting, he minimizes the team's potential with his dumb "strategies."

Beyond his substitution habits, Woody also shows his stupidity by continually switching everything on defense. Avery Johnson brought out the folly of this "strategy" during halftime.

All I know is that Mike Woodson is supposed to be a defensive coach, but his defensive scheme sucks. It's the same thing every game. During halftime, Avery Johnson said that switching everything is a very dangerous scheme, yet, we continue to do it and get burned by it routinely. I'm CONVINCED that Woody is not the man for this team.

This is pure torture.

It was unintentional. LeBron even went over to Josh to make sure he was OK.

The thing that drives me absolutely nuts about Flip is that he routinely passes up open shots for much more difficult shots. Someone will throw him a good pass and he'll be wide open. Then, for some unexplained reason, he'll pass up the open shot and then go to where the defenders are and throw up some difficult shot that has little chance of going in. I just don't get it.

Josh Smith and Mike Bibby are the only two players that decided to show up for the Hawks tonight. Al Horford is going to have to find a way to make a difference somehow, and once again, Joe Johnson pulls a disappearing act. We're going to have to get a lot more out of those two if we expect to make this a competitive series.

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Jon Barry is really hating.

The whole team.

That was hilarious.

Joe Johnson played well today. He wasn't passive and he refused to let himself be taken out of the game today. I was proud of his effort. Hopefully, this is a learning experience for him. Notice how he forced his way into the game - even if it meant taking a 3-point shot from WAY downtown? If he's our All Star, that's what he's SUPPOSED to do. There is nothing wrong with our star forcing the issue. I'll have no problem with Joe Johnson whatsoever if he continues to play that way. He showed a lot of heart today. We need him to continue to play that way. I won't be mad at Joe if he attempts to make his presence felt in a game, and he just fails while being aggressive. However, I feel as if he could have tried a lot harder to make his presence felt in the other games instead of letting Miami take him out of the game. However, I give credit where credit is due. I LOVE Joe Johnson when he decides to play like that. Hopefully, that will be how Joe approaches the games from here on out. I don't expect us to beat Cleveland, but I at least expect Joe Johnson to go down swinging.

I was thinking more along the lines of DeAngelo Hall. Hall could be a shut-down CB, but he has got some sort of mental block that stops him from being one. He does things that he has no business doing - like playing 10-yards off of a WR on 3rd and 3 and things like that. Smart, shut-down CBs don't do that.

I don't know. I've been watching the games and hoping that they would pick and roll. I often wonder why Josh Smith sets the screen and then just sets up behind the 3-point line. I recall thinking many times that if they'd just tell Josh to roll after he sets the pick that he'd get a lot of easy alley-oop bucks like Tyson Chandler does. It could just be me, but I don't recall there being many pick and rolls at all.

Pick and roll??? When have we ever picked and rolled? I see a lot of picks, but not much else after the pick.

Like I said eariler, I wouldn't trade Joe Johnson for just anybody, and I know it's a lot tougher to actually trade a player than to say it, because of having to match up salaries and etc... Furthermore, you're right. Why the heck should I put in the work to actually go find out all of this information to come up with a realistic trade scenario as if I'm getting paid to do so or something? I've got better things to do with my time. You don't see me saying "We should trade Joe and sign LeBron!!!!!" or some silly thing like that. All I'm saying is that, in my opinion, Joe has demonstrated that he is not a reliable #1 option, he is a complimentary piece, and I would like Sund to look into the possibility of trading him. You can sit here and post trade scenarios all day, but it's all pretty pointless at the end of the day, because nobody on this message board is making any kind of executive decisions about the Hawks. Also, as soon as you do post a trade scenario, then you'll be in more arguments about what you proposed, because some people will think your proposal is completely stupid. For instance, you and I could be arguing about your Smoove/Acie for Bosh trade scenario. I wouldn't like that trade at all. However, I'm not going to go 'round and 'round with you about the merits of a fictitious trade that most likely will never happen. Likewise, I'm not about to put in the effort or the time that it would require for me to present a "realistic" fictitious trade. It's not worth my time, in my opinion, and it's not something that I enjoy doing. It's just like the NFL Draft. I'll watch it to see who the Falcons take, and I might have a few opinions on who I'd like to see them select. However, I'm not about to build a draft board and construct multiple mock drafts, as I see that as a waste of my time. If that's your sort of thing, then more power to you. As for me, I feel like it's a complete waste of time and energy.

Actually, that just proves that you don't really comprehend or pay attention to what you read. Also, you were the one that started out with the condescending tone. Furthermore, you failed to do what I asked you to do. If you want me to come up with a trade scenario, then you need to first come up with ALL of the requested info. I've already said that if there is a way to trade Johnson to make us better, I would like to do that, but at the same time, I wouldn't trade Johnson for just anything. However, if you're going to make such a silly request of me at this time, then I must ask you to first provide me with all of the necessary information that I requested from you. However, there is no point in even having a discussion with you about Joe Johnson because you feel as if he is one of the top players in the league and that he is a good #1 option. Please explain to me how many true #1 options have performances like Joe Johnson in the playoffs??? The only way I can see us improving while keeping Joe Johnson is to get a true #1 option. If you can explain to me how that's going to be possible, especially with Joe Johnson probably wanting a max contract shortly, then by all means, please do so. However, I will admit this: Getting Woodson out of here and bringing in a coach that actually understands defense AND offense would probably help Joe and everybody else on the team.

I believe I said that much already. It seems as if you didn't read all of the posts where that stuff was already addressed. Go back and read the posts, and maybe it will make sense to you then.

LOL!!! Now, why do you wanna start in with me???

That's the million-dollar question.

First of all, have you ever heard of packaging players and picks? You could trade a player for a pick and then turn around and package that pick with another player to get what you want. The point is, it's asinine for you to ask me to come up with a trade proposal right now, because we don't have enough information about the draft positions of teams and the wants and desires of other teams. You want me to come up with a trade proposal? Fine. You come up with a draft order, a list of the top-45 players in the draft, a list of other teams' needs and wants, and a list of players that might want a change of scenery along with their contract figures. Second, you're right. I'm not the GM. That's why it makes it even more asinine of you to ask me for a trade proposal. All I am is a fan on the internet expressing his opinions and blowing off a little steam - whether you like it or not. Nothing that anybody posts on this message board is going to have any effect on the team. Therefore, why are you getting all bent out of shape because I'd like to see Joe Johnson traded for something better? Now, I'm not stupid. I'm not saying that they should trade him for a lesser player, and I know that they can't trade Joe for somebody like Kobe, Chris Paul, or LeBron James. All I'm saying is that if there is a way to get better by trading Joe Johnson, I'd love to see it happen.