marco102

You should support the right message no matter the messenger. Diesel is on point here.

No. It's been reporting that he wants a mutliyear deal. That's why I said bring him back and draft a youngin for the long term back up position.

They have superiority complex where we are Homers and they are just being objective.

My personal vendetta was with The_Hater. He loves to have strong opinions, but got upset when I called him out. I don't get upset as I used to with the posters there as I believe most are casuals and young fans.

He def doesn't need to change the offense. That is alot of what Indiana fans complained about. LP wasn't great but his offense was tops in generating open threes. The Hawks were still good at that in the playoffs, but missed a ton.

I think Bogi continues to start. If Cam continues to drop twenty off the bench with great defense, leave him in that role as long as we have Bogi. Cam is definitely the future at two guard as long as his offense becomes more consistent.

Yeah, the other side of this is you trade them away and they reach their potential somewhere else. I'm not saying Hunter and Reddish are all NBA, but we should at least wait until their rookie contracts are up and re-sign them to see what we really have. This run was unexpected and has moved expectations forward, but I'd like to give our guys at least a couple more seasons to see how they progress before shipping them out for someone.

I'd bring back Lou and draft Tre Man. That way the young guy can have that mentor and as he gets more experience can take over. https://www.thestepien.com/2021/05/12/compensation-kings-redefining-athleticism-with-mann-and-springer/ This kid is a pick and roll maestro similar to Trae. His passing is a bit underrated and he competes on the defensive end albeit still not very good yet. I know the above is a lot to read, but just watch the videos if you don't have time for the analysis. @NBASupes I like Cooper from a playmaking standpoint, but his shot mechanics are completely broken and I don't think he'll be able to contribute right away. The team will have to completely rework his shot. I could be wrong about him contributing right away. His passing is on another level, but if you can't shoot that generally doesn't work well in this NBA. If he can get his shot mechanics fixed and he becomes a decent shooter, I'll be on board with him. I just think Mann is a better fit with Trae because he can play along side him and he'll be able to contribute a little sooner than Cooper.

The Hawks CAN keep every one of the young core I believe. The two players likely t get cut or traded are Bogi and Gallo. The Hawks may cut Gallo in his third year. If Kevin keeps in proving, it makes Bogi expendable and you can trade a good Bogi for some assets. I wouldn't do that for two years though to keep the Hawks depth in tact.

Run it back!

Seems to be what most of the players are getting these days. I agree with your assessment, but it seems like something like that may happen in the negotiations. I for sure would prefer the team option.

who did they draft besides the big three were their only competent draft picks besides Harrison Barnes. Who else did they draft that required a decent extension did they not keep? The answer is no one.

I don't think @NBASupes will like this. I'd offer John a 5 year $130 million deal with a fifth year player option. It's more than any other team can off him and it falls in line at about $26 million per year. That's a slight over pay, but if you think about it, it's the same AAV of 4 years $104 million which many here consider reasonable. It locks John in long term without maxing him out and if he continues to improve it'll be a fair deal for both sides. That's slightly above Johns actual value of about 4 years $90 million of about $3.5 million per year. It'll make both sides happy in my opinion. I don't see the Hawks getting anyone better than John. John knows what he needs to work on and he's improved every year that he's been here. It'll be foolish for his team not to ask for a max deal, like will you go tell your agent not to get you the most money? I believe the Hawks and John will meet somewhere in the middle and I hope to see John's continued improvement. It'll also be foolish for the Hawks to let him walk without getting anything in return. What they get in return will not be the same value as John in my opinion. Let's run this ish back and get our championship. I don't care about Toni's money. Spend it all Travis. (whispers, spend it all wisely.)

This is True. Luckily we have another two years with them to see where we stand.

Not hard at all. If the Hawks win a championship in the next couple of seasons, I don't see them letting any of the young core go and they will be willing to go into the Luxury tax for that squad. Who did GS lose? I don't remember if they lost any of their young core because of salary cap issues. They shipped Harris Barnes out to get KD, but that was for a way bigger upgrade.

I know I shouldn't bring up LP, but it appears Travis gave a little more insight into why LP was let go. https://theathletic.com/2690210/2021/07/05/nate-mcmillan-gets-a-deal-john-collins-future-and-internal-growth-gm-travis-schlenk-on-the-state-of-the-hawks/ Pretty great article by Chris. Edit: I also hope Nate has a good eye for talent.

Cam's performed his best coming off the bench. I'm not so sure why the sentiment around here is focused on who starts. If Cam starts, I'm all for it because I guess I"m the second biggest Cam fan here. If he comes off the bench, it doesn't mean that he won't play most of the minutes in a game if he's got it going. The defense over Bogi is a def plus, but next season it may be best for him to continue coming off the bench and being that sixth man. Going forward, when Bogi's gone, I believe Cam will start and Kev will take over the sixth man role. JC should and will be starting 4. We'd get eviscerated on the boards without him. When Cam, Hunter, JC, and Capella have shared the floor, I believe they were the number 1 defense small sample size and all. So glad we have a deep roster so we can have these debates though.

1. Hawks 2. Falcons 3. Braves 2 & 3 are interchangeable depending on how their seasons are going. I can watch every NBA and NFL game, but Baseball, I may watch a 3rd of the season until the playoffs, then I'm all in.

Yeah, except that first sentence. Travis wasn't on the hot seat this year. It's funny how they say Luka is generational and the Hawks have a generational team. The Ringer still has their Luka bias. If Luka is generational, Trae Young is generational too. I also don't agree with their JC take. He fits just fine. Other than that, I appreciate the coverage..lol

Why do you get so defensive about these things? Harden was out of shape for him and that lead to him getting injured. He was in the worst shape of his basketball career. That's not talking about wait it's talking about his conditioning. When you're body is more tired it is likely to break down. That's scientific.

I'd clap too with the windfall this playoff run just made him. These guys are going to be one of the hottest tickets in town and all over national tv. Jersey sales about to go through the roof!

I prefer "Killer Cam" or "Camfam"...lol

Just proud of these young guys. I came in afraid of the Knicks an left expecting a championship in the next few seasons. The key to the Hawks success will be their depth. We will still be one of the deepest teams in the league going forward. With Trae, Gallo, Hunter, Reddish, Huerter, Bogi, Collins, Capella, and Okongwu they will have all the firepower and defense they need to win this. It's going to be harder said than done, but I finally don't feel like a homer when I say we have a championship contender.

Why does it matter who starts? It matters who finishes. We have options. That's all any of us should worry about. If Bogi is hot, leave him. If the others are hot leave them in. Who start doesn't matter. Who wins us games as Hawks fans is all that should matter. I don't care if Bogi gets 1 minute or 48. As long as we are winning that's all that matters to me.