Atlanta Hawks waive John Thomas

[Squawker24]

Making room for someone new?

[Plastic Man]

warriors drop aaron miles, pacers drop samaki walker, we drop thomas- all on the same day!!! i'm anxious and nervous

[Nicholasp27]

looks like we're getting troy murphy

[tmac13]

Are you for real?..Link?

[Plainview1981]

Where did that rumor come from??

[Nicholasp27]

just combining the following 4 pieces of info

a) rumor that artest going to gs and murphy leaving

b) the fact that murphy is byc so they need a 3rd team

c) the fact that some in indy want al for artest

d) the fact that all 3 teams dropped someone on the same day

[tmac13]

Well, today was the cut off for contracts being guaranteed for the entire season ..I assumed that was the reason for all the cuts.

[exodus]

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b) the fact that murphy is byc so they need a 3rd team

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They don't need a third team. They just need to add a player to make the salaries match. Murphy makes around $7 million, so they could only take back $3.5 mil. And the salaries have to be within 25%.

If I am not mistaken a trade of Artest for Murphy/Petrius works under the cap rules.

[Nicholasp27]

that could very well be the reason

the cuts may not be due to any trades; i'm just speculating

[Nicholasp27]

not according to realgm's trade checker

murphy/pietrus for artest fails

[exodus]

Not sure if it is within 25%. They might have to do a throw in to make it work, but they don't need another team.

If I had to bet I would say a direct GS-Indy deal is the most likely.

[Ralph]

It won't work.

They need a third team with cap space to absorb the difference in the salaries.

For Indiana, the deal is:

Murphy = Artest.

Murphy is BYC.

So For Golden State the deal is:

Murphy = 1/2Artest or 2 Murphy = Artest.

so Golden State can only take back 1/2 of the value for Murphy.

So you were correct to say that Pietrus must be added to equal out the Artest value for Golden State.

However, Indiana cannot take Murphy + Pietrus for Artest.

For them, the equation is still

Murphy = Artest.

So there has to be a team who can accept Pietrus or a similar salary.

That's where we come in. We have cap room because of the Collier tragedy and the cap space we had before that. I don't know if it equals Pietrus, but I think we have cap space and Indiana doesn't.

[kevinmiu]

I think most teams dropped someone. It's the day before guaranteed salaries kick in...and...John Thomas...you get the point.

[Nicholasp27]

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They might have to do a throw in to make it work, but they don't need another team.

If I had to bet I would say a direct GS-Indy deal is the most likely.

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no, they need a cap-space team to absorb some salary to make it work

try to find ANY combo that is indy/gs only with murphy going to indy and artest going to gs that works

[Final_quest]

There were a couple other teams that dropped players, but not many. I think I saw the Cavs, Hornets, and maybe one other team drop a player so far.

[exodus]

Whatever the trade is it should happen soon. I can't imagine them waiting until the deadline. Just imagine how annoying the wait is for the teams involved.