Premium Member Diesel Posted January 29, 2003 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Tell Kasten, I'm applying for the GM's job. I have a trade that effectively cuts some salary. Gives us good players. AND fills our most important NEED... ALL without causing a big hole... AND... ALL three teams would benefit!!! Atlanta trades: C Nazr Mohammed (5.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.1 apg in 13.5 minutes) PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (19.9 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.4 minutes) Atlanta receives: C Dan Gadzuric (4.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.2 apg in 18.7 minutes) SF Jalen Rose (23.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 4.6 apg in 41.0 minutes) PF Marcus Fizer (11.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.3 minutes) PF Corie Blount (2.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 14.0 minutes) Change in team outlook: +16.3 ppg, +6.7 rpg, and +3.9 apg. Milwaukee trades: SG Ray Allen (21.8 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.4 apg in 35.8 minutes) PF Anthony Mason (8.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 3.5 apg in 34.4 minutes) C Dan Gadzuric (4.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.2 apg in 18.7 minutes) Milwaukee receives: C Nazr Mohammed (5.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.1 apg in 21 games) PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (19.9 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 43 games) Change in team outlook: -9.5 ppg, -5.1 rpg, and -4.1 apg. Chicago trades: SF Jalen Rose (23.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 4.6 apg in 41.0 minutes) PF Marcus Fizer (11.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.3 minutes) PF Corie Blount (2.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 14.0 minutes) Chicago receives: SG Ray Allen (21.8 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.4 apg in 37 games) PF Anthony Mason (8.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 3.5 apg in 39 games) Change in team outlook: -6.8 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and +0.2 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Chicago. Gains Allen, Mason for Rose, Fizer, Blount. On paper it looks like a Chicago loss... However, Allen would be more of what CHicago needed than Rose. Allen is a good shot who can help Jay WIlliams and not do the things that rose does. Milwaukee. THey lose Allen and Mason. Truth be known, Mason is the problem in Milwaukee. Allen has become tradeable now that they have Redd playing like an allstar. I think part of Big Dog's commentary on ALlen was true. However, they get Shareef and Nazr. The numbers don't pile up because Nazr doesn't play much... However, Nazr would be the best C Milwaukee has had since Kareem. Cassell/Redd/T2/SHareef/Nazr would be a hard team to beat. Atlanta. We have traded for Youth. We got as a squad: Theo/Fizer/Big Dog/Rose/JT. ON paper it doesn't look much better than what we have now... However ROse would be the best compliment to Terry that we can find. Fizer is not a world beater at PF. He's definitely not Reef, but he rebounds and plays defense. Our Salary relief starts with Blount... But Still Theo would have to be traded. And when he is traded, Gadzurich is not a bad upcoming young C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFan31 Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 I dont like it at all. We lose every post presence that we have with Reef and even Nazr. I much rather big up Big Dog and Nazr and gain Jalen at SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 29, 2003 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Well, I would play Jalen as a OG... Not a SF. JT - PG Jalen - OG Big Dog = SF Fizer = PF Theo = Soon to be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelston827 Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 That trade is horrible for us. Just like JT said, teams would absolutely eat us alive in the middle, not to mention that trade puts way too much offensive emphasis on the outside game, something that is one of this team's worst areas. Your "brilliance" is only matched by your ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 I don't think that Dog and Rose could co-exist - it'd be just like he and Allen all over again. Rose is a very good player, but not someone that GRob would admit to as being better than him, thus they're be a power struggle for "who's team is this" and neither would like it. GRob either has to a) be the focal point of the offense and team in general, or b) forced to play alongside someone, say a healthy Vince Carter/ TMac/ Kobe that he can freely admit to their being the superstar without losing any face or confidence in his own ability and game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Looking at your proposed team after the trade, why couldn't we just send Reef to Chicago for Rose/Fizer? We may have to throw in Glover or someone else for salary cap filler but that's okay too. Nazr/Hendu Theo/Fizer/Ham Dog/Ira/CC Rose/Benjamin JT/DD I think that deal makes us more balanced, I just hope Rose's attitude wouldn't be a problem. I think Reef is a better player than Rose but I still am not convinced that Reef and Dog will ever be able to adequately defend the frontcourt no matter who the Center is. All that being said, of course I would rather trade Theo or Dog and get Rose in return but I don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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