HawkTodd Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Well I feel better now, knowing the situation with Lampe. I kept wandering why he was not getting drafted, thats un-fortunate the situation with his contract and what not. I figured he would be the first pick in the 2nd round because there is no guranteed contract in that spot. That could turn out to be a real steal for the Knicks. Well at least now we understand what was happening. Go Hawks, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 I don't like the fact that he apparently doesn't move well....i.e....isn't very athletic. He didn't fit what we need. Despite what some people think, Diaw does bring what we need: Defense, athleticism, and ball handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 KB21, I agree. I think he was the best pick left at 21. And you never know what moves lay ahead for us. But, at 21 ... I think he is EXACTLY what we need. What did we complain about all year? Lack of a ball handler. Check. Defender. Check. Passer. Check. Someone to compliment JTs lack of size. Check. This allows us to rid ourselves of big load and put Ira in at SF. Starting lineup ... C - Theo PF - Reef SF - Ira SG - Terry PG - Boris I like it. And you never know what else is in store. The only thing I think he REALLY lacks is flash. I doubt we will see many AMAZING plays, but I think we'll see smart ones. Check that, I hope we do. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 That lineup will not scare ANYONE. All teams have to do is double Reef and put their best perimeter defender on JT. Who is supposed to be the 3rd option? Ira? Ira's shooting percentage was so good because all he had to do was knock down open shots. I'm not knocking him for that, that is what he was SUPPOSED to do. But if he is actually EXPECTED to score, how effective would he be? If Diaw shoots as poorly as advertised, Dog had better stick aorund or we had better play Glove or DJ at SG and Diaw at SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker0017 Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Trace, Reef already gets doubled every possession. Nothings changed. There wasn't a go-to guy in this draft at 21 that would allieviate that. Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 proposed lineup, we only have 2 players who can legitimately be called offensive threats on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 You know, I look at the stats, and I'm trying to find where Diaw's poor shooting is. The guy shot 55% from the field. Over the past two years, he's only taken 30 three pointers. He's a better shooter than his teammate, Mickael Pietrus. Diaw is just a guy who would rather find the open man than shoot the ball right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ_Swann Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 He is a set up man. Not a 1st or 2nd option scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 you can't go on shooting percentage alone. What if the vast majority of his points come from dunks? I don't know that to be the case but 30 3's in 2 years says to me that he didn't attempt a lot of them. I'm not sure I buy that he'd rather pass than score stuff on this guy. Hopefully, he will be more aggressive because if he doesn't play aggressivley in this league and he can't shoot, he won't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkTodd Posted June 27, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 My Lineup: P.G. = Boris Diaw S.G. = Jason Terry S.F. = Glenn Robinson P.F. = Abdur-Rahim C. = Theo Ratliff That looks like a really good lineup on paper, although we learned last year whats on paper doesn't always work out. I think if we can get a couple free agents to beef up our bench and I also think that gettin DeMarr would help us as well. Hopefully with a year together the team can perform better. Heres to hoping. Go Hawks, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinctybldh Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 No No No get rid of Glenn Robinson. When your team plays better without you then with you, you know something is wrong. Dump him ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 yeah, though I'm ben outspoken in supporting Ira at the three, I'd rather go young with something like JT, Ira(DJ), Diaw, SAR, Theo...get Rice as a bu player taht can come in when we need something else off the bench. Diaw's a three.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKSFAN Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 PG: Jason Terry SG: DerMarr Johnson SF: Boris Diaw PF: Shareef Abdur-Rahim C: Theo Ratliff That would be the lineup defensively and on offense Diaw may get some action at point foward. Im not sure what Big Dog will be traded for but he better be traded. That team wont have very much offense but hopefully they can make up for it with defense. Last year I believe we were 9-4 without big dog and we probably started JT/Glover/Newble/Reef/Ratliff. That team isn't much better offensively. Hopefully Glover will be back as a spark off the bench. With Diaw versatility and Johnson spreading the floor with his perimeter play offensively, maybe that will open it up for other players. That lineup has the potential to be really good defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 someone refresh me on the Houston trade and it's prospects after tonight's draft. Would y'all, in all honestly, be willing to try the team of JT/DG/Diaw(Ira bu both swing)/SAR/Theo with Rice off the bench? possibly, though less likely of the three, resignign DJ to the min (I really don't like how quite things have been on him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezmund Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Wouldn't a Grob/CC for Sprewell deal be nice? Jason Terry/Dan Dickau Latrell Sprewell/Travis Hansen Boris Diaw/Ira or DJ Shareef Abdur-Rahim/Hendu Theo Ratliff/Nazr That team could work with the right coach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFan31 Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 I like some of the proposed deals, but tell you a lineup I will like also is JT/Dion/Diaw/Reef/Theo, that wouldnt be so bad, we have 2 very good scorers and a good one in Dion. Dio really played very good after the allstar break, when he started getting playing time. I say we should deal Big Dog and bring Spree in or maybe Eddie Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted June 27, 2003 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 the Hawks would need scoring from the backup 3...I doubt Newble would be that scorer. Walt Williams, maybe? Plus, as always, a big man to fill out the roster. That'll happen in summer camp, I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Diaw is a good slasher but in the offense the Pau Orthez ran (half court iso) he didn't get many oppertunities to play his kind of game. Diaw is -french league MVP -french league slam dunk champion and his pass first mentality is a needed change of pace compared to sir-chuck-a-lot-Grob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 -french league MVP" If he won his MVP averaging 7PPG 4APG it's not a very impressive league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 It's actually quite a good league, he won the MVP award because of his presence on the court, he's a difference maker. Don't be misguided by the assist stat, assist are given less easily then in the NBA. You have to either catch and shoot or practically immediately go into the two step for scoring. He sets people up for the easy extra pass and score. Besides, he re4ally is a great passer, loved by the team and hotlanta when you see him mature you'll love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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