Premium Member Diesel Posted September 11, 2003 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 If Atlanta elects not to match... Then what? Is it all over. Can we win with: JV/Diaw/CC/SAR/Theo as our starters? I would say, then it becomes time to make more trades. I am not going to say that we are going to match ANY offer for Terry. Now that we have gotten to this point, and UTAH has called our bluff, we have to see what they offered. If they offered 6 year 55, I say... Forget about it. Right now, the Franchise is being asked the question.. Exactly how valuable is JT. I know he's a good guy, good personality, can score. But do we have a team that can be built around JT and his weaknesses. I hate to say it but his weaknesses might be bigger than his strengths for US when BIG MONEY is involved. Can we afford to risk the future on JT's Weaknesses? Those are other questions. However, here is the diesel PLAN B. I think that if JT is not matched. We don't panic. I say we look over everything we have and really determine where we are and what we need. That being said... We would need a SHOOTER. Somebody who can hit the outside shot with regularity. We would also have less need for Diaw as a SG/Sf and more need for a Scorer or defender in those positions. SO... From the mind of Diesel, I have a trade to help us remain competitive. Trade #1. Theo/Dickau to Washington for Stackhouse and White. Follow that by adding Kenny Anderson, DJ to the roster. In the end, we have: Anderson/Stackhouse/DJ, SAR, White. Trade #2. Theo to PTL for Bonzi/McInnis. Add Stepania to our lineup and we have: McInnis/Bonzi/Diaw/SAR/Stepania. Trade #3. Theo to PTL for Trybankski, Humphries, Person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 JV/Diaw/CC/SAR/Theo as our starters?" LOL That's funny. We should have signed and trade. This is officially the worse franchise in the history of the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 ....and quite possibly the present point guard, so he will not be traded. If the Hawks don't match the JT offer, then they will look to deal Shareef Abdur-Rahim and possibly Theo Ratliff to the highest bidder. They will try to get some young players to plug into the line up with Dickau and Diaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Dan Dickau is nothing but a stubby little white player. And he's supposed to be the future. Tell me, when was the last time a team featured a white american player and be sucessful. Stockton and Bird are the only ones that come to mind and they are exceptions rather than the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 .....and that comment shows just how stupid you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Really? Show me the player. What I saw in Dan Dickau was an unathletic player that hada nice college career but should be working at Home Depot now. He supposed to be the future? Shouldn't he have NBA game to be the future? You are dumb enough to say he's the next Nash, but you also though Yao Ming was a bust... Yep, your a good judge of how good a player will turn out.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaufan12 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Hmm... over history? I can only think of a few... Jerry West, John Havlicek, Bill Walton, Dave DeBusschere, Dave Cowens, Billy Cunningham, Rick Barry, Pete Maravich, Bill Laimbeer... the list goes on. I'd take any one of them any day. Oh, and I'm pretty sure that all except one of them (Maravich, but he was the whole team) was the #1 or 2 guy on a championship team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 How long ago was that? Wasn't Pistol Pete a player on bad teams most of his career? Bill Laimbeer wasnt a great player either. He was a tougher version of Raef LaFrentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaufan12 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Hey, Laimbeer was a pretty big part of the Pistons in the late 80's... also, you didn't say how long ago. Now, you say the last 10 years, and you've got me. But the facts are right there. "American white guys" have definitely had their time in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Dickau isn't even talented enough to play in the NBA. All KB can do is compair rookie stats with another player in hopes that it holds true... All Dan could do is shoot a three(and he didn't even do that very well) he doesn't have the ability or quickness to get to where he wants to go on the floor and he sure can't play defense. This franchise clearly as no clue and I'd rather be a Bobcats fan because they atleast have an excuse for being bad and I feel more comfortable with their future than I do this team. [censored], as sorry as this franchise is I'd still rip them even if I wasn't a fan. Just like the Clippers always get thrashed. The Hawks are a team you can't help but slam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 You continue to show your ignorance about everything dealing with basketball. Dan Dickau and Steve Nash are identical players. You actually have to watch basketball and know a little bit about it to see it though, which obviously you don't. I'm sure you would have kicked Nash to the curb after his rookie season as well. Dan Dickau is a great shooter who has amazing court sense and natural leadership ability. Last year against Golden State, he penetrated at will against Gilbert Arenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaufan12 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 You know, you're right. In his senior year, Dickau only shot 45.7% from three point range. I believe he was tenth in the nation. Yeah, youre right. He should be ashamed from even trying to make an NBA roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Dan Dickau is a great shooter who has amazing court sense and natural leadership ability. Last year against Golden State, he penetrated at will against Gilbert Arenas. " WOW! good thing we have Chris Crawford and his one good game as a Hawks. But atleast his was an important game. You continue to show your ignorance about everything dealing with basketball. ? Yeah and Yao Ming ad Vick are a bust.lol Besides, Nash is only winning because of the mavs great talent. Nash gets toasted on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inside_Man Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Cowens goes head to head with Kareem in the finals - Cowens gets the ring. Havlicek was MVP of the series. getalife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaufan12 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Goodness, lay off. Obviously, you have no clue. You're comparing Dickau to veteran players. No, I'd assume that he wouldn't be as good as someone with 4-5 years experience. That's just common sense. I'd also say that he may have been hampered a bit by a knee injury. Such an injury tends to hold a player back. At least he made the effort of working hard to play out last season and do well this year. Throw out last year. I can't wait to see how stupid you look at the end of the year. P.S. Vick's injured. For the next 5 weeks, he's worthless. Who knows if he'll come back at the same level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaufan12 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Thanks, Inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Nash also averages 17.5 points and 7.5 assists per game while shooting well over 40% from the three point line and turning the ball over only 2.34 times a game. So apparently, there are a lot of players that he torches just as much as you think he gets torched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inside_Man Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 The 1974 Celts may have had more players go on to be NBA head coaches than any other team. Can anyone find a team with more? Don Nelson Don Chaney Paul Silas Dave Cowens Paul Westphal good trivia Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Cowens goes head to head with Kareem in the finals - Cowens gets the ring. Havlicek was MVP of the series. getalife" What does 1974 have to do with now? Or even the last 10-12 years? Dan is what he is..... A great white hope scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 You act like 17.5PPG is some kind of huge production.... It really isn't. All Dan Dickau really is a great white hope scrub. He doesn't have NBA talent. You rant on and on about meaningless game againest the Warriors. Shows how little of a case you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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