thecampster Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 No they won't. They couldn't give a crap about Hump's value as far as what they are asking for after that. The NJ deal is dead on arrival unless some team takes on a major salary like Hump. That is what NJ is willing to pay for - Dwight Howard. NJ is paying for cap space. You have to pay a premium for cap space so NJ is willing to give up a first rounder to do that. Coincidently, that is exactly what we will have long-term as part of the JJ trade. Not sure this ends up happening but we'll see. Again and I can't say this enough. If you read the article, they say they are signing and trading Hump to Cle then a "resigned" Lopez to Orlando. Can't be done or this would be done or they would have sent them both to Orlando. Additionally, Humphries is free to go wherever the money is and right now there are 2 or 3 teams with more money to offer for a good PF. Ask yourself "Why?" would Hump go to CLE.....lot's of money. So ask yourself this...why / how would CLE pay that much for Humphries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I don't see the Nets winning any titles with or without Howard. They have a very good shot at pulling it off. Nothing is a sure thing... As we saw last year with Dallas taking out Miami. And old ass Boston almost making the finals, but they have a good shot. I'd rather LA get him than Brooklyn. I don't like The Nets, Knicks or New York for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) They have a very good shot at pulling it off. Nothing is a sure thing... As we saw last year with Dallas taking out Miami. And old ass Boston almost making the finals, but they have a good shot. I'd rather LA get him than Brooklyn. I don't like The Nets, Knicks or New York for that matter. The Mavericks only won that title because Lebron hadn't figured out how to play yet. If you took this year's Lebron and put him on that team I think it would have been a slaughter. I'm not saying it's impossible or anything, but I would be surprised if New Jersey wins a title. Edited July 9, 2012 by thefloydian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted July 9, 2012 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA RT @GrownManFB: I wonder what the #HAWKS are offering? ---> Told it was most of the luggage from the Joe Johnson deal. Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA RT @EloyVazquezJr: is it me or a package of horford, teague and first rd picks more enticing ---> sure, but its never been offered. Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA Unclear what Hawks are really offering, as Hawks source deny emphatically that Al Horford has been offered to anyone Insane that we aren't offering Horford. The ONLY way we get Howard in a trade plus have him resign is to pair him up with Josh and Horford is the only piece we have to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA RT @GrownManFB: I wonder what the #HAWKS are offering? ---> Told it was most of the luggage from the Joe Johnson deal. Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA RT @EloyVazquezJr: is it me or a package of horford, teague and first rd picks more enticing ---> sure, but its never been offered. Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA Unclear what Hawks are really offering, as Hawks source deny emphatically that Al Horford has been offered to anyone LOL told you guys we did not offer jack squat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 They are not seriously trying to get Howard...So it was just a salary dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 This trade could have been done already smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted July 9, 2012 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 They are not seriously trying to get Howard...So it was just a salary dump If this truly was just a salary dump to pave the way for new owners next summer...wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Insane that we aren't offering Horford. The ONLY way we get Howard in a trade plus have him resign is to pair him up with Josh and Horford is the only piece we have to get him. Perhaps.....and I'm only taking a shot in the dark here.....Perhaps Ferry is hearing exactly what Dwight has only been saying forever....that he's not interested in the Hawks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Perhaps.....and I'm only taking a shot in the dark here.....Perhaps Ferry is hearing exactly what Dwight has only been saying forever....that he's not interested in the Hawks? true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Insane that we aren't offering Horford. The ONLY way we get Howard in a trade plus have him resign is to pair him up with Josh and Horford is the only piece we have to get him. I don't know how many times this exact conversation has happened in the last few days, but why do any of you think the Hawks are going to trade the whole team for a rental? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) JasonWalkerSBN Dallas and Atlanta, once said to be aggressively trying to trade for Howard, aren’t mentioned in @WojYahooNBA report tonight #omens The piece in question http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nets-emerge-again-as-strong-contender-to-land-dwight-howard.html Edited July 9, 2012 by MaceCase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) I don't understand a lot of the people on this board. Of course it was a salary dump. And it was a smart one. Whether or not Howard signs with the Hawks, Joe Johnson's contract had to go. The Hawks were going nowhere with that team and it was only going to get worse. Trading one of the only remaining good players for 1 year of Dwight Howard would be idiotic.I don't know what kind of weird fantasy you guys have, but the only semi-realistic expectation was that Howard would sign the following year. Edited July 9, 2012 by thefloydian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I don't understand a lot of the people on this board. Of course it was a salary dump. And it was a smart one. Whether or not Howard signs with the Hawks, Joe Johnson's contract had to go. The Hawks were going nowhere with that team and it was only going to get worse. Trading one of the only remaining good players for 1 year of Dwight Howard would be idiotic. I don't know what kind of weird fantasy you guys have, but the only semi-realistic expectation was that Howard would sign the following year. Never said I did not like the dump...I love it lol I have been saying all this time ASG did not have the cahonies to do this , or the interest- I have been saying it is not gonna happen and they are offering trash for D12..I was right lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Never said I did not like the dump...I love it lol I have been saying all this time ASG did not have the cahonies to do this , or the interest- I have been saying it is not gonna happen and they are offering trash for D12..I was right lol So do you think they should trade Horford for a 1-year Howard rental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDash Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) I heard that we are not even offering al horford which is probaly a big reason we havent been in any serious trade discussions No way are we going to get Howard without offering Horford in a deal. Just... No way. It's not even reasonable to expect it. We cant win the whole thing without Howard- C Horford-SF Josh-SF Everyone is Small, U go BIG! 101 dam Horford is in my Sig for a reason! Edited July 9, 2012 by iDash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Well ask yourselves this......What would have prevented the Hawks from offering the same "best" package for Howard.......with Joe still here?So how was the Joe trade done.......with the intention of trading for Howard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) We cant win the whole thing without Howard- C Horford-SF Josh-SF Everyone is Small, U go BIG! 101 dam Horford is in my Sig for a reason! Having Dwight Howard on your team makes up for any lack of size you might otherwise. have. That's kind of why he's so good. Smith is better than Horford. Edited July 9, 2012 by thefloydian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red2play Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Joe Johnson is no Paul Pierce, Wallace is no Lebron James. With iso-Joe, Wallace who can't score on his own, they will simply be the NY knicks II. However, Deron Williams to Dwight will be good but not enough for a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Joe Johnson is no Paul Pierce, Wallace is no Lebron James. With iso-Joe, Wallace who can't score on his own, they will simply be the NY knicks II. However, Deron Williams to Dwight will be good but not enough for a ring. I wouldn't even call Wallace a poor man's Josh Smith at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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