Dieselputer asks this question...

[Diesel]

Seriously, if DF trades Horf away in order to have an Osh- Dwight frontcourt, he needs to be fired in the very same day.

Osh: raw talent and athleticism (possibly already in decline), no BBIQ, me-first PG, basketball-hero syndrom, VERY inefficient in the offensive side, horrible FT and long range shooter. Wants max money.

Horford: maybe not quite an All-Star, but plays for the team, and is one of the best PF/C in the league. Also, his contract is VERY friendly. Can consistently hit a jumper, FT % was back to normal in the second half of the season.

If there is someone to be included in a S&T that should be Osh. Why give Horford's contract away and keep an overpaid Smith? It doesn't make any sense to me..

However, if he trades Horf away to get Josh/D-12/CP3 core. Then he probably will be executive of the year. The same is true for Josh/D12/Rondo (with extension) core.

[JETSET]

A Rondo/Josh/D12 trio would be terrible. where is the spacing going to come from? Teams can just pack the paint and the offense would be inept.

CP3/Howard/Horford is easily the best trio that we can do. It's not even close.

[MaceCase]

A Rondo/Josh/D12 trio would be terrible. where is the spacing going to come from? Teams can just pack the paint and the offense would be inept.

CP3/Howard/Horford is easily the best trio that we can do. It's not even close.

Yup, a lot of Rondo's success comes from having bigs that can pick and pop on you with great accuracy spacing the floor for him. This allows him to operate and probe the defense without guys just laying off and daring him to shoot. Replace Brandon Bass (46%) and Garnett's (47%) mid-range shooting with Josh (33%) and Dwight's (30%) and it's a recipe for disaster. That, and if a team just so happens to be down in the 4th they can take their pick of who they will go "Hack a......" on.

[Guest]

However, if he trades Horf away to get Josh/D-12/CP3 core. Then he probably will be executive of the year. The same is true for Josh/D12/Rondo (with extension) core.

NO NO NO NO and NO to D12/Josh/Rondo - their is no balance to that team. Rondo excels because players pick n pop or pick n roll or cut to the basket - Josh likes to pick and float for a 3 pointer and he doesn't cut to the basket often at all. There will be no spacing for D12 to work in post. Thinking about that line up makes my head hurt from listening to all the bricks from jump shots and at the free throw line.

[Buzzard]

We can't keep Smoove if we sign Dwight and CP3. Why would you want Dwight on the same team with Smith? They really do not fit each other game and both are horrible FT shooters. They also cancel each other out on defense if Josh is at PF. Josh needs a new start, I wish him well for whatever team he signs with.

Playing Josh at the 3 alongside Horford and Dwight does not bother me as much as having both Smoove and D12 in the 4th quarter shooting 60% from the line. One bad FT shooter in your starting lineup is all any team can afford.

[Peoriabird]

- Josh likes to pick and Brick!

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[Diesel]

A Rondo/Josh/D12 trio would be terrible. where is the spacing going to come from? Teams can just pack the paint and the offense would be inept.

CP3/Howard/Horford is easily the best trio that we can do. It's not even close.

Are you kidding.

Rondo is the smartest PG in the game. He will never pass it to Josh to make a bad spot. Moreover, there will be more players on the floor. Maybe Korver. Maybe Allen?

Secondly, just imagine that we did have that five. Defensively, we're a beast.

[NBASupes]

Are you kidding.

Rondo is the smartest PG in the game. He will never pass it to Josh to make a bad spot. Moreover, there will be more players on the floor. Maybe Korver. Maybe Allen?

Secondly, just imagine that we did have that five. Defensively, we're a beast.

Josh has numerous bad spots.

Rondo effectiveness is maxed out by Boston supporting players while it will be underutilized with those players.

[JETSET]

Are you kidding.

Rondo is the smartest PG in the game. He will never pass it to Josh to make a bad spot. Moreover, there will be more players on the floor. Maybe Korver. Maybe Allen?

Secondly, just imagine that we did have that five. Defensively, we're a beast.

Rondo is not the smartest PG in the game. I will take Paul's BBIQ over Rondo's any day of the week. Rondo routinely passes up easy layups to kick it out for a 15 ftr or 3 pt attempt to pad his assist numbers. Rondo routinely slouches during the regular season as well.

A team of Paul,Horford,Howard would own those 3 on the offensive end and they would be better on the defensive end. Josh is a tweener. He's not quick enough to stay with the elite SF's but he's not big enough to defend elite PF's.

[Diesel]

Rondo is not the smartest PG in the game. I will take Paul's BBIQ over Rondo's any day of the week. Rondo routinely passes up easy layups to kick it out for a 15 ftr or 3 pt attempt to pad his assist numbers. Rondo routinely slouches during the regular season as well.

A team of Paul,Horford,Howard would own those 3 on the offensive end and they would be better on the defensive end. Josh is a tweener. He's not quick enough to stay with the elite SF's but he's not big enough to defend elite PF's.

CP3 is tough and motivated but Rondo does more on defense and on offense, Rondo is as good a in game manager as CP3. CP3 definitely shoots better but when you match Rondo's in game management and his lockdown defense, he's smarter. He plays passing lanes better. He forces his opponent to where he wants him to go. CP3 vs. T. Allen should have been a wake up for anybody.

[JETSET]

CP3 is tough and motivated but Rondo does more on defense and on offense, Rondo is as good a in game manager as CP3. CP3 definitely shoots better but when you match Rondo's in game management and his lockdown defense, he's smarter. He plays passing lanes better. He forces his opponent to where he wants him to go. CP3 vs. T. Allen should have been a wake up for anybody.

Are you talking about the last 2 games of the series where Paul looked for his shot early instead of spending the first half looking to get his teammates involved? Tony didn't have much of an answer for Paul in those two games as Paul scored 63 points on over 50% shooting.

[Admin]

CP3 is tough and motivated but Rondo does more on defense and on offense, Rondo is as good a in game manager as CP3. CP3 definitely shoots better but when you match Rondo's in game management and his lockdown defense, he's smarter. He plays passing lanes better. He forces his opponent to where he wants him to go. CP3 vs. T. Allen should have been a wake up for anybody.

Meanwhile, back at Diesel's Hookah Lounge...

Rondo shown forcing someone to go where he wants them to go.

[AHF]

Rondo's two biggest issues are his perimeter shooting (including FTs) and his maturity. He does have fantastic instincts on both ends of the court and is an elite passer and defender. With his long arms, he is also very effective driving the ball.

He isn't in Paul's class, but he is gifted, competitive and generally plays the game the way his coach wants. We could do a lot worse at PG and only a notch or two better.

[Guest]

I remember desperately wanting to draft Rondo in 06. I still have a pic of Robdo, Randy Foye and Marcus Williams when they all came in for a workout with us. Agree with AHF, Diesel and others on Rondo's play. Great defense, facilitates the offense, putting players in positions to meet their strengths, long arms, and a desire to win with a no nonsense attitude. His jumpshot seemed to be his major weakness but even that has improved over the last couple of seasons. Would love to land him via trade. Personally my top 2 pg's in the league are Rondo and cp3. Imagine a starting group that included Dwight, Smoove, Rondo and Tony Allen. We would seriously hold teams around 82 points a game lol

[MaceCase]

Imagine a starting group that included Dwight, Smoove, Rondo and Tony Allen. We would seriously hold teams around 82 points a game lol

Too bad that they'll hold the Hawks to 70. People seriously undervalue the importance of spacing in the NBA.

[Guest]

We could still space the floor with Korver and Jenkins

[JETSET]

We could still space the floor with Korver and Jenkins

LOL at one player providing enough spacing for a team. Rondo, Smooth, Dwight and Allen would be rendered useless on offense because the defense would just crowd the lane and dare them to shoot jumpers. That grouping would fail hard.

[Guest]

We could still space the floor with Korver and Jenkins

Only one would be on the floor at a time and as we've seen - stick to Korver like glue and he is ineffective.

Balance is required for a championship team. Guys who are both effective on both sides of the ball so you don't have to worry if you have enough offense or defense on the floor.

[Ruckus]

LOL at those who still want Josh on this team. In lieu of Horford at that. SMH