JAY WALKER, I NEED YOUR HELP!!! *DELETED*

[capstone21]

A thing about Bibby's assists is that the ball went through Webber and Vlade a lot. Those two great passing big men would often pass the ball and thus affected Bibby's assist numbers.

[Guest]

Agreed.Being on a team with Vlade/Webber you're assist numbers

are likely to decrease as they are two of the best passing big men

in all of the game.

[Inside_Man]

http://carolan.org/jtsassists.gif

[Playoffs03]

inside man, nice graph, that is your own website?

jay, bibby used to average like 8 ast in vancouver, but never made a clutch shot. i bet if jason kidd or andre miller plays with the kings, they won't get more than 6 ast. i don't think bibby is a top 3 point guard. not even top 3 in the west.

[BlackHawkDown]

First let me say I like Bibby he is asolied starting PG. But to me he isn't the star everyone makes him out to be.

I'll save you the trouble. BHD you only think that because your a racist. Bibby is black so I'm not sure how you all will phrase the argument but I am sure it will lead to that.

[Playoffs03]

BHD, i think your statement towards Bibby is perfectly fine except ... Bibby is black? i've seen him play for 3 full seasons in vancouver plus almost all of his playoffs game last season plus all of those kings games that were boardcast on NBC and i've never knew that he is black. am i missing something here?

[Admin]

Hell there arent many athletes that are pure black or pure white anymore......everyone usually has some kinda mix in their family line......I really dont consider him white or black, but I know the majority of people I know consider him to be black

[Inside_Man]

[cyman3]

yea, Bibbys black. His father is darker (i believe).

Kidd is 100% black? I thought he had some SPANISH mix in him somwhere?

[Admin]

I dont think that Kidd is 100% black, there is no way that he isnt mixed.........he is just a dark skinded cracker, as they would say in Remember the Titans.

[Playoffs03]

come to think of it, i remember one of my friend told me that he is mixed couple years ago.

[BlackHawkDown]

Bibby is black. They asked him at the BET awards he said he was black as far as he knew, maybe his greatgrandparents were mixed. Kidd is mixed.

Hey I hope this doesn't lead to a race debate. But what is Kidd's wife's ethnicity. Indian, Hispanic, light skinned black, White, Native American, I honestly cant figure out what her race is. Not that it really matters, but I have never seen a person who could pass for any race.

[cyman3]

I forgot what background Kidds wife comes from, but i remember her being FINE AS H*LL...

i think she was either WHITE or HISPANIC (or a mix?)

[Blunt91]

Nope Mike Bibby's father is just as light as his son. That is probably who he took his complexion after. While we are talking about mixed race players did you all know the rookie Drew Gooden was half German? His mother is German while his father is black.