jumpshot Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Are there any internet articles on the proposed sign and trade for JJ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Joe Johnson Gets His Wish Fantastic!! The perfect fit for the Hawks at point guard!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_town Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 pay someone 70 million? geeezus H on the other hand, if thats what it takes to get a marquee player to the ATL, then im down no one will want to sign here until we do Go Joe!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchaz Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 I am curious. Would you guys still want JJ at $90/6 years and this trade? If ATL is willing to pay the max then the max under a sign and trade is Michael Redd type money. I mean JJ wants the max right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 They said it was the max under our terms, not Phoenixs. He isnt worth 90 million to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 The terms are $70 million over 5 years, so asking a question about $90 million is irrelevant at this point. However, I would still do it to get the type of point guard this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 He's already agreed to 5 yrs/$70M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 I wish it was 6 for 70 instead of 5 for 70. However, I'm very happy we're getting JJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchaz Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 But that was as a restricted FA. Now it is a sign and trade. It has become a different situation. I know what the article said. I was just curious what JJ was worth to the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Trading 2, 1st rd picks (and Diaw) is ludicrious, Babcock-type behavior. We are NOT a player away from contending and we need currency. Given Pheonix would be resigning a player to the max, front-loaded contract knowing he does not want to play with them, I'd just assume call 'em on it. If they match, so be it. If they don't, better still. I don't mind the JJ at Pg experiment. I just don't want it to cost our ability to draft a big man, perhaps a pure Pg, and simply aquire more talent. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 The picks will have a protection on them. This is not a Babcock type move. Babcock would give up two unprotected picks for some slug off the side of the street. BK values his draft picks, and he wouldn't deal them unless he was damn sure that this is the player he wants. Joe Johnson is worth it. Lorenzen Wright wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 I was looking at a Suns board, and the majority of the fans are ready to skewer Robert Sarver right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJYD Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Marc Stein says in his article that both picks are protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Quote: The proposed deal, according to sources, would bring guard Boris Diaw and two lottery-protected future first-round picks to Phoenix -- along with a trade exception in the $5 million range -- after Johnson signs a contract under terms established by Atlanta: $70 million over five years with an estimated balloon payment of $20 million up front. Billy Knight is the best GM in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 and I don't think the odds of getting a star quality PG or C are that great outside of the lottery. Sure there are exceptions but there are a lot more busts/role players found outside the lottery than stars. I think the deal is fine. In fact, it is very close to a deal I proposed yesterday (Diaw/Delk/Collier/Boston Pick for JJ). I am not thrilled about the addtional future #1 but I can live with it with it as long as it is lottery proected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highpozt Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 I am actually elated we finally may have a free agent to come to the Hawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Quote: The picks will have a protection on them. This is not a Babcock type move. Babcock would give up two unprotected picks for some slug off the side of the street. BK values his draft picks, and he wouldn't deal them unless he was damn sure that this is the player he wants. Joe Johnson is worth it. Lorenzen Wright wasn't. Joe isn't not worth: Max contract 5 million trade exception 2 1rst rounders Boris Diaw That's just crazy. The more I think about it, the more I think Billy got hosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_town Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 1) with a sign and trade, 5yr/70 million is not a 'max contract'...that is closer to 6/90 2) the draft picks are lottery-protected as stated in the ESPN article 3) see CBAreject's post as to why PHX gets a trade exception and how we in no way 'gave it up'...we never had it to start with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFan31 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 I couldnt agree with Hotlanta more. KG is worth it Kobe is worth it Wade is worth it Amare is worth it Lebron is worth it Duncan is worth it ....get my drift JJ is not worth all this. Dont get me wrong, he is a good player but not for all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 I thought that 5 million was basically coming out of the Hawks pocket. That doesn't seem to be the case though so it makes it plenty easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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