Joe Johnson top shooting guard

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Filled with spectacular athletes capable of taking over games in any number of ways, they can grab the ball off the rim, take the ball the length of the floor, and burn defenders from the perimeter or off the dribble on a whim.

The bigger question is how do you differentiate between the elite shooting guards who play the game today?

Seriously now ... do you really think Dwyane Wade is a better basketball player than Kobe Bryant?

Then again, is Kobe Bryant more talented than Tracy McGrady?

And while we're at it, is any one of the aforementioned trio even close to being the same kind of consistent leader that Ray Allen was for the Seattle SuperSonics last season?

Not to be forgotten is the biggest winner of the entire group — Manu Ginobili, who in the last four seasons has won two NBA titles, an Olympic gold medal and a European title.

Dwyane Wade needed just two seasons to reach the top of the shooting guard heap. (Victor Baldizon / Getty Images)

The key to ranking extraordinarily talented players such as these is the criteria used for the ranking. If we went on pure talent, Vince Carter would be considered for first. So would Steve Francis. And there is always the sleeper of the bunch who everybody fell in love with over the past six months — Joe Johnson.

Actually, Johnson is loaded with tangible skills, but we won't find out what kind of leadership qualities he has until we see how he performs with his new team in Atlanta.

Bryant's leadership qualities have been in question since the team completely unraveled at the end of the 2004 NBA Finals against the Pistons and there was unrest last season.

And that's not to mention that both McGrady and Carter admittedly quit on their previous teams, setting the stage for trades last season.

That leaves us with the wonderfully talented and focused qualities that both Wade and Allen bring to the floor to help their teammates succeed. Not only did that last throughout the regular season, but well into the postseason. Wade led the Miami Heat to Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals, and Allen carried the underdog and injured Sonics to Game 6 of the West semifinals against the San Antonio Spurs.

So how do we differentiate between the two? Well, Wade just does more. He isn't the special perimeter shooter that Allen is, but Wade does everything else better ... from ballhandling, to taking players off the dribble, to setting up his teammates, and defending.

Consequently, we believe not only is Wade the best shooting guard in the league entering this season, but along with a healthy Shaquille O'Neal and other additions to the team, will lead the Heat to their first NBA title in 2006.

And without further adieu, here are our top 10 shooting guards for the 2005-06 season, and a few more:

1. Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat

Ht./Wt. 6-4, 210

Numbers: 24.1 pts., 5.2 reb., 6.8 ast.

Wade became the "It Player" during last year's playoffs. Strong, smooth and extraordinarily gifted, his best quality might just be his humility. And when you consider that he is just entering his third season ... it just puts everything in perspective. The fifth player taken in the special 2003 draft — after LeBron James, Darko Milicic, Carmelo Anthony and Chris Bosh — may indeed end up being the best of all.

2. Ray Allen, Seattle SuperSonics

Ht./Wt. 6-5, 205

Numbers: 23.9 pts., 4.4 reb., 3.7 ast.

Just when everybody thought the Sonics were headed to the cellar for good and Allen along with them, he gathered the troops and not only explained, but showed them how to win. He became an upper-crust superstar for good during the playoffs with a slew of extra-terrestrial performances against the Kings and Spurs that exceeded expectations even for Allen.

3. Kobe Bryant, LA Lakers

Kobe Bryant is the most complete talent at the SG position. But his attitude knocks him down to No. 3 on our list. (Rocky Widner / Getty Images)

Ht./Wt. 6-6, 220

Numbers: 27.6 pts., 5.9 reb., 6.0 ast.

He's still the best package of talent, with the size, strength, quickness, defense and offensive skills. But there is so much resentment and disdain for his selfishness that he has to overcome that it tends to supersede his wondrous gifts. And it is amazingly ironic that Phil Jackson would return to coach after a one-year hiatus to help him prove otherwise.

4. Tracy McGrady, Houston Rockets

Ht./Wt. 6-8, 210

Numbers: 25.7 pts., 6.2 reb., 5.7 ast.

T-Mac appeared to do everything humanly possible in the first round of last year's playoffs against Dallas, and still couldn't prevent the Rockets from blowing a 2-0 lead coming home. It's too easy to point the finger at the irrefutable fact that he has never gotten out of the first round, but it's also why he's ranked no better than fourth.

5. Vince Carter, New Jersey Nets

Ht./Wt. 6-6, 220

Numbers: 24.5 pts., 5.2 reb., 4.2 ast.

There is still Vinsanity to reckon with, but the difference is in the definition. No longer is his talent what keeps fans in awe, but the contradiction of his great play to his frequent disappearing acts. He was outstanding down the stretch last season to get the Nets into the playoffs. Now in Year Two we'll find out how deep his commitment is. Plenty of people still need to be convinced.

6. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs

Ht./Wt. 6-6, 210

Numbers: 16.0 pts., 4.4 reb., 3.9 ast.

Many insiders watching the seven-game win over the Pistons believed it was Ginobili, not Tim Duncan, who should have been the MVP of the finals, and that it was backlash to commissioner David Stern's globalization theme that skewed voting from the writers. Whatever the case, Ginobili now is a legitimate All-Star in every phase of the game and getting better, regardless of whether he was raised in Argentina or Brooklyn.

7. Steve Francis, Orlando Magic

Ht./Wt. 6-3, 205

Numbers: 21.3 pts., 5.8 reb., 7.0 ast.

Stevie Franchise had hoped for bigger and better things with the Magic last season, only to suffer another disappointing trip into the lottery. He is not a point guard, nor a shooting guard. He is a guard, with exceptional talent, who just dribbles way, way, too much. Somebody else will play point, so he is a two, and we'll see if new coach Brian Hill can help him gain some consistency.

8. Michael Redd, Milwaukee Bucks

Ht./Wt. 6-6, 215

Numbers: 23.0 pts., 4.2 reb., 2.3 ast.

He has moved into the "elite player" category contract-wise and without question shooting-wise. But can he rise to the level of a player who helps his team win? The Bucks were a major disappointment last season and have added two key players in Andrew Bogut and Bobby Simmons, and new coach Terry Stotts. Now Redd has to prove he deserves the money and plaudits by leading them to the playoffs.

9. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons

Ht./Wt. 6-7, 195

Numbers: 18.7 pts., 3.9 reb., 4.9 ast.

Rip's all-around improvement defensively and passing the ball have been vastly overlooked in the wake of the Pistons' back-to-back Eastern Conference titles. He remains one of the top two or three mid-range shooters in the game and is getting better all the time at setting up his teammates as well. Just because he's skinny, doesn't mean he can't play. He's potentially Reggie Miller with less range.

10. Joe Johnson, Atlanta Hawks

Ht./Wt. 6-7, 230

Numbers: 17.1 pts., 5.1 reb., 3.5 ast.

It's hard to figure what will happen to this marvelously talented 24-year-old now that he's going to the Hawks. A natural shooting guard, maybe he becomes a point guard, maybe a small forward. Whatever the case, he's the only other player who has the complete game on both ends of the floor and shooting touch to rival Bryant. The difference is, he may be too nice of a guy.

Also under consideration: Larry Hughes, Cleveland Cavaliers; Michael Finley, free agent; Jason Richardson, Golden State Warriors; Jalen Rose, Toronto Raptors; Cuttino Mobley, Los Angeles Clippers; Stephen Jackson, Indiana Pacers.

[RAHMOR]

I have to disagree with Wade being #1. Kobe still is the best in my eyes. He always has the best perimeter defender on him on offense and on defense he plays the best perimeter player. Noone else can say that. Who else score 25 points on detroit's defense and chase Rip most of the game other than when he's drying to cool of Billups?

Manu definately should be higher. At least higher than Vince Carter IMO. As far as Joe goes. I truly believe he will be making his way up this particular list.

1. Kobe

2. D. Wade

3. T-mac

4. Manu

[Admin]

simply because of what he is capable of doing. I cant tell you how many times I have seen him completely turn a game around in a matter of minutes. I have never seen a player other than Jordan with his ability to consistently be able to do that.

I think that Kobe is probably the most talented player in the game overall, but he doesnt have that "it factor" that Wade has.

[Plainview1981]

Allan Houston jr....ehhhh Michael Redd has become

overrated.

[cyman3]

agh, tough one... a real hard one to call

but ill have to rate

1) KOBE- complete package. he can BRUCE BOWEN the other offensive SG/SF, and get his 30 points on offense. If it wasnt for the negative perception (Rape case, Shaq, Phil, etc)- i think people would pick KOBE as the #1 hands down. im not a big kobe fan, nor am i a hater- so i think im a pretty neutral (nonbiased) fan.

1) LEBRON- Ties Kobe.

2) WADE- My only knock on him? Hes an excellent slasher, but im not 100% sold on his outside shot (3s). But its only a matter of time before he knocks those down on a regular basis. Weve only seen WADE for 2 years, we need to see more. I want to see Wade duplicate his success for a longer duration before i crown him as the best SG in the game.

3) McGrady- Kobe w/o the D and competitive spirit. I think he could be rated #1, but just doesnt have that drive. The only time i actually see him play hard 24/7, is in the playoffs. but i want to see him do that in the regular season as well!

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4) Ray Allen- can drop 50 on anyone except RON ARTEST or BRUCE BOWEN.

5) Manu Ginobili- playing next to DUNCAN makes him look like McGrady out there... but we've all seen him struggle here and there. if we gave him the MAX when he was a free agent, everyone here would go CRAZY and wouldnt like that idea.

5) Vince Carter- Ginobili tries harder, but Carter is more dangerous. The guy SHOULD be in tier 1, but doesnt give it his 100%. heck, he quitely gets 20-25 ppg without much effort.

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6) Steve Francis- has high numbers in all statistical categories. unfortunetly, this includes turnovers.

7) im going to stop here...

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3) McGrady- Kobe w/o the D and competitive spirit. I think he could be rated #1, but just doesnt have that drive. The only time i actually see him play hard 24/7, is in the playoffs. but i want to see him do that in the regular season as well!

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Agreed. This guy can take over a game offensively and pretty much score at will he just doesn't. I think he could be rated #1 also.

I forgot about Lebron but I wouldn't tie him with Kobe because he doesn't always get the toughest defensive assignmet.

Wade and T-mac probably have more talent than Kobe but they don't have his drive. It seems bron bron has as much drive as Kobe but I still can't put him #1 just yet.

[thesource966]

Since when is Steve Francis a shooting guard? Michael Redd is overrated.