BrazilianHawk

Lottery or not, this team just can't draft. Give away the first if it means upgrade at PG. Now.

Aye, Sund, please stop posting and do you job. GET O}N THE PHONE, MAN! :shake_puter:

Mozgov to Denver, i guess NOW we could make a play to get Nene to the ATL as well. Smoove/Craw/1st for Felton/Nene/JR Smith http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4zbt6ez Felton/Bibby/Teague JJ/JR/JC2 Marvin/JR Boss/Powell/Zaza Nene/Boss/Collins The bench still sucks, but we get a hell of a stating 5. GET ON THE PHONE SUND YOU IDIOT.

Once more... Jamal is a loser, he has laid some eggs in the playoffs and yet there are people willing to ship Marvin in order to be able to resign him. So why not take Sessins, a "loser", to run the offfense, since all we got @ PG is crap? Sessions is a definite upgrade, getting him on the cheap should be a no-brainer. Not to mention we would never have to see Mo in a Hawks uni again.

Hm. Right. And Jamal is a winner for sure. Would be better off without him as well? I mean, not right now, but when we traded for him?

Marvin can't be faulted for being selected #2. It wasn't HIS pick. He´s got good defensive and rebounding abilities, makes open jumpers and goes to the hole/line when possible. He's far more useful to this team than Crawford it isn't even close. Shouldn't trade a player only because he fails to be someone the GM thought he was. It was BK's fault and for that (among several other "mistakes") he was fired. I'm cool with Marvin, at least he tries to do something useful instead of just jacking up bad shots. Someday he'll understand his role as a bench player is much bigger than as a starter and he'll be fine with that. Then we'll have a second unit that at least will be able to not squander double-digit leads in the second quarter. We had no need for him then but we do have need for anyone who plays a lick of D now. I'd keep him unless we can get someone who's going to address a bigger need and play D as well.

eh, cut Etan. He does nothing anyway.

I would do Smoove for Nene in a heartbeat, but I'm prejudiced since I'm Brazilian. Nene knows his role and doesn't hurt his team trying to do too much. Since Smoove has greater upside I believe it would be fair we bring Shelden back for Etan. At the very least Shelden can play backup PF better than Powell. I would try and bring JR Smith (expiring) as well for Zaza's a$$. There would be nothing else I would be interested to take from Denver. So Smoove - Zaza - Etan for Nene - JR Smith (exp) - Shelden (exp) would be ok for me. We get two bigs and someone to play SG/SF (expiring roughly 7 mill). http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=64cun5k So considering we could get Sessions for Teague/Mo/pick: Sessions (36) / Bibby (12) JJ (24) /Jamal (24) Marvin (24) / JR Smith (12) / JJ (12) Boss (30) / Shelden (12) / Marvin (6) / Powell (-) Nene (36) / Boss (6) / Collins (6) I believe we could do some noise with this.

LOL Paul missing the layup was hilarious.

BOSS = Clutch

... and therefore Sund will add this to the Atlanta Hawks resumé and keep saying "WE LIKE OUR CORE!" Congrats Horf, Coco and Steve! :thumbsupsmileyanim: GO HAWKS Mod please merge to the other thread started minutes ago. THX.

If Smoove refuses to play @ the 4 then trade his a$$ for an improvement at Center.Hell, trade him a for good PG if needed. We'd be better off with Al playing PF fulltime anyway.

Eh, if I had to choose Marv or Craw, I would take Marvin all day. Craw is useful only when his shots are falling (pretty rare occasions nowadays). Marv has shown some game after being relegated to be bench and he actually plays some good D and has no fear in attacking the rim. Trade some bums (Etan, Powell, Teague, Mo) and a 1st for Sessions, then Craw for some help at the 5 and we're set. Let's have Bibs and Marv coming off the bench along with Craw Jr and Zaza.

:thumbsdownsmileyanim: Selective memory? Yes... Yours. Jamal shoots us out of games much more than he wins them. We're talking about THIS season and Jamal's PRESENT value. The guy is crap, he hurts us way more than he helps us. Only LD and you can't see this.

Can't wait for the game to start! This one will be the most entertaining game of the regular season. GO BOSS! GO HAWKS, smash those sissies! :super:

Fire this sorry excuse of a coach already. Get someone in here who at least will try and develop our baby-hawks! FREE TEAGUE AND CRAW JR! FIRE DREW!

This should be do or die for LD, he's already showing how incompetent this team can be under his instructions. I don't miss Woody but, I wish we had a real coach. It's about time coach Drew would do something, anything, to stop this bleeding. His so-called "motion" offense doesn't work anymore. That's too bad ASG won't bother firing him, he's so cheap after all. And Jamal... oh man. So many of us love the guy but, for each game he wins for us, he shoots us out of another three. Time to look who else we could have. We have enough jumper-happy guys, time to look for a post presence... or a real PG. Can't stand Bibby anymore. His shooting wasn't that bad tonight but, freaking Shawn Livingstone went for 20+. A scarecrow could guard the guy better than Bibby did. Makes me wonder whether isn't it time to rebuild already. We're going nowhere with this roster. :shake_puter: Really disappointed. Craw Jr could give us the win. LD is ridiculous.

Pathetic. And some of us would be mad at the media because we get no love from them... Spare me from that BS!

I think what the Heat did is really bad, I thought what the Lakers did in that trade for Gasol was bad as well (MEM got lucky with Marc), but all this conversation about Cleveland getting screwed by LolBron and Boozer is BS. IMHO, Cleveland deserved that. I believe the maneuvers they did to land Jamison last season were just as harmful to the league credibility as the other deals I have cited above. Trading away the Big Z and then just waiting for waivers to clear, signing him back on the cheap just a month after that trade... that was dirty as hell. Therefore I have no problem with LolBron and Boozer turning them down. I think the Cavs are the most dishonest franchise in the NBA, I really hate them for that and I would like to see them screwed for the next decade or so. :line dance:

LOL really.

I'll second macdaddy in this one. I hate Queen LolBron, but she's got it right this time. :thumbsupsmileyanim:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4e5x3ca Bibby-zaza-Mo-Etan-2011 2nd to NJN Murphy-Farmar to ATL Right now we have only one useful PF and that is Al. Smoove don't wants to play at the 4 anymore. The other ones are crap. I for one would like to see Murphy in a Hawks uni for a long time now, If healthy the man is a huge upgrade over Zaza and Powell, he used to be a double-double machine until last season, and his 3 pt shooting would help creating space for Al or Smoove in the paint. I would give him a try, and if this desn't work, at least we have another huge expiring, which means we would be able to resign JC1. If this works and Murphy proves he still can play at a high level we could try to resign both of them @ lower salaries. Bring back Pop Secret and some bench warmers from the D-League and we would be set.

NICE POST! Happy New Year all! And BTW, I do believe/hope we have some impending trades going on... But I would guess Smoove and Craw are going to go, not Marv or Horf.

Our chances to best ORL are slim (at best) if we continue playing like this. The Hawks are just horrid right now. We can't afford to lose to the Nets or any other bad team if we want to be ahead of the Magic.

Well all of this crap about Craw being so good... then 30+ minutes, 2 points and 5 turnovers. That's why we can't start him. He's just too inconsistent and I woukd rather have him traded as soon as JJ comes back. I grew tired of all the times he shot us out of the game.