What team is in a worse mess that the Hawks???

[Wurider05]

I am starting to think that as bad as we got, New York is in much worse shape than us. I know that they got Frye and Curry (neither one can rebound worth a damn)and Larry Brown but geez fellas that organization is making our logjam at forward look like heaven right about now.

[Packfill]

I would say, in addition to the Knicks, Portland is probably worse off then the Hawks. Their best player (Randolph) is really not that motivated and their young players are intriguing but even further from contributing in a meaninful way then the Hawks youngsters.

Of course, if Webster, Outlaw, Jack, Kryapa, Monia, Telfair, etc. get a clue then they always have a chance. It just seems their collection of young forwards is less talented then the Hawks collection of young forwards. One big advantage they have though is two good point guard prospects in Telfair and Jack.

Another team that is in trouble is Toronto. They have an advantage in that they have their star - Bosh. The Hawks are still trying to figure out who their star is. The Hawks have much better depth though - Toronto has Bosh and Charlie V and not much else for the long run.

[CrawDaddy]

Charlotte. They blow.

[exodus]

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would say, in addition to the Knicks, Portland is probably worse off then the Hawks. Their best player (Randolph) is really not that motivated and their young players are intriguing but even further from contributing in a meaninful way then the Hawks youngsters.

Of course, if Webster, Outlaw, Jack, Kryapa, Monia, Telfair, etc. get a clue then they always have a chance. It just seems their collection of young forwards is less talented then the Hawks collection of young forwards.

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Portland's core players are Randolph and Miles, neither of whom are all that good. None of their other players really has the chance to be that good. Plus they are capped out.

[exodus]

Charlotte blows right now because their three top scorers are all hurt and have been for awhile.

[CrawDaddy]

They still blow when healthy.

[Packfill]

If you combined Charlotte's roster with the Hawks roster you would have a pretty good team - they have what the Hawks need (big men and point guards) and Atlanta has what Charlotte needs (shooters).

[Packfill]

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would say, in addition to the Knicks, Portland is probably worse off then the Hawks. Their best player (Randolph) is really not that motivated and their young players are intriguing but even further from contributing in a meaninful way then the Hawks youngsters.

Of course, if Webster, Outlaw, Jack, Kryapa, Monia, Telfair, etc. get a clue then they always have a chance. It just seems their collection of young forwards is less talented then the Hawks collection of young forwards.

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Portland's core players are Randolph and Miles, neither of whom are all that good. None of their other players really has the chance to be that good. Plus they are capped out.

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That is why I am saying they are probably worse off then the Hawks. The thing is though, they do have a ton of young players and one or two could blossom, so you never know. Martell Webster could be the next big thing.

[exodus]

I was just agreeing with you but forgot to type it lol.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

After tonight's game, is there ANY DOUBT on which franchise is worse off in the NBA?

[Lascar78]

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They still blow when healthy.

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they are better than us when healthy, full of potential, and their financial discipline leaeves them with plenty of flexibility for the future. They are doing about as good a job as an expansion team can.

NY is clearly the biggest mess IMO. Highest payroll in the league, tons of bloated contracts, and an underachieving highly average team. No draft pick this year, no money to sign anyone. Complete disaster.