Moderators AHF Posted January 30, 2008 Moderators Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 From yesterday's chat: Quote: Lance (OH): I just read an article that The Magic might try to acquire Josh Childress by sending out their 1st rounder and Keyon Dooling. Isn't that too much to give??? David Thorpe: No. I love JChill's upside. Nothing else substantive on the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 If management and ownership were going to make the decision to not resign Chills and allow him to walk for nothing it is OK move from our stand point. However, the Magic would be the last team I tried to improve since they are in our divsion. Chills fits perfectly for them. They don't need a SG who can shoot b/c the fowards and PGs are excellent shooters. Turkalu and Lewis are excellent 3 point shooters. They need a long guy who brings the intangbles to the SG position, like Chills It would be a great move for the Magic when you consider their pick will only be in the 20's. This may get Jaywalker to post since he is an Orlando guy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I am getting tired of watching Childress. He can't score from the perimeter at all. He is too slow to be effective on D or to take guys off the dribble. He can only score inside but he is so weak he can't take contact and frequently loses the ball. If the Hawks let him walk for nothing that wouldn't even bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Chill is what he is at this point. And that rumor was just a REALGM poster. I doubt the Magic would throw in a #1 with Dooling...although I'm all over it. Childress has stopped progressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 30, 2008 Author Moderators Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Quote: Pat(Chicago): On that note, has Calderon passed Kevin Martin and Gerald Wallace as the most underrated player in the league? John Hollinger: David West has to be in that discussion too, as does Josh Childress. I might go with West right now, but any of those five guys has a strong case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 30, 2008 Author Moderators Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Quote: Mike (Tallahassee): You keep saying that the Hawks might let Childress go, but I don't see it, at least so long as Knight and Woodson are running the show. They LOVE him. He plays starter's minutes, plays in crunch time, and his versatility is a perfect fit for their system (such as it is). John Hollinger: Do they love him to the tune of $8-9 million a year to come off the bench? Because if somebody else makes an offer sheet in that range, their options are to match it or let him walk. I agree that they'd prefer to keep him, but the market may work against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 30, 2008 Author Moderators Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 (Bob) Atlanta: That's interesting about Childress in theory, but how many teams are going to have the cap room to make that kind of offer? And look how many quality free agents there will be this year, too. John Hollinger: You're right that it might not happen -- Philly might end up being the only team with cap space, and they could target another free agent. But if you were going to go after ANY of the restricted FAs, he'd be the guy, because Atlanta has to pay Smith, they're already paying Johnson, and Marvin is up for an extension in the fall. So you're gonna pay Childress big bucks to back up those three guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 30, 2008 Author Moderators Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Quote: Mike (Tallahassee): Any chance the Hawks move Pachulia or Shelden Williams? They aren't bad, but they just don't fit the Hawks' style. Their contracts are reasonable. John Hollinger: Actually, they are bad, and that's the problem. What are they going to get in return? Hawks' best hope is that Zaza finds his mojo again and gives them a quality backup center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHayley Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 That isn't such a bad trade, but I don't want another pick. Is Dooling a true SG? I don't know much about him except that he can make 3's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHayley Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 That's sad. I wish we could've traded both of them over the summer when they were "hot" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Quote: He plays starter's minutes, plays in crunch time, and his versatility is a perfect fit for their system (such as it is). Obviously this guy doesn't watch Hawks games. Childress is one of the least versitile wing players in the league. he can't defend and he is known for his late game blunders. His lack of passing ability was on full display last night. He couldn't make an entry pass without getting it swatted away and tried to throw an alley oop to Smith when Smith had no chance of getting near the basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Quote: From yesterday's chat: Quote: Lance (OH): I just read an article that The Magic might try to acquire Josh Childress by sending out their 1st rounder and Keyon Dooling. Isn't that too much to give??? David Thorpe: No. I love JChill's upside. Nothing else substantive on the Hawks. I'd rather not split up Childress' value in a player and a pick and simply get one player for him or combine him with another player (i.e. SW) and get a single, slightly better player for the both of them. We can get role players all day long with the MLE or FAcy. Let's try to do a little better for ourselves than Dooling and a 20-something. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Quote: Quote: He plays starter's minutes, plays in crunch time, and his versatility is a perfect fit for their system (such as it is). Obviously this guy doesn't watch Hawks games. Childress is one of the least versitile wing players in the league. he can't defend and he is known for his late game blunders. His lack of passing ability was on full display last night. He couldn't make an entry pass without getting it swatted away and tried to throw an alley oop to Smith when Smith had no chance of getting near the basket. When you look at Childress 4 years into his career, you have to ask "What in the hell was BK thinking"? he is so limited and his limitations are easy to see... BK never asked himself about that horrendous release point? Well, I guess its because he's long and lean. I'm sick of the whole thing. We have Woody and Bk, two absolute jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.R.P. Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 That reminds me of a game a couple of weeks ago when Childress tried to shoot a shot before the end of a quarter, yet it took him so looooooooooooooooong with that release that he didn't make it in time. All Steve Smith could do was laugh and say "he tried". It's like Chills has to touch his toes with the ball before he can shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 And that is a killer flaw and obvious. Why did we draft this guy with the 6th pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 i guess it's an ok deal..dooling would help us in our shooting department and would get good minutes to contribute that shooting but is he worth it? he's played for a few teams now, is there something we're missing? how deep is the draft this year, what area do you see orlando's pick being at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 31, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Quote: i guess it's an ok deal..dooling would help us in our shooting department and would get good minutes to contribute that shooting but is he worth it? he's played for a few teams now, is there something we're missing? how deep is the draft this year, what area do you see orlando's pick being at? In essence, these guys want to send away Chillz for 3 months with Dooling and Pick #28 in the draft? Yeah... That's smart?!?!??! I guess Ex really wants to host the Draft day party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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