DJlaysitup Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 This isn't intended to be a "Bash Jeff Teague" thread - but we have to be a bit realistic. Bibby is probably out for a week or so and we now realize that we really don't have a #2 PG who can step in and get the job done. I don't see how the Hawks can gamble this great start with nobody to handle the PG spot in case of injury. Bibby's great, but he's no Spring chicken. I think management needs to get down to business and get us a guy like Anthony Johnson usta be...a solid pro who can get the job done in Bibby's absense...distribute...play some D...and make the open shot from the perimeter. I'm not talking about spending big bucks - just get a solid second string PG that can be trusted to not flock things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfHawk Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 This isn't intended to be a "Bash Jeff Teague" thread - but we have to be a bit realistic. Bibby is probably out for a week or so and we now realize that we really don't have a #2 PG who can step in and get the job done. I don't see how the Hawks can gamble this great start with nobody to handle the PG spot in case of injury. Bibby's great, but he's no Spring chicken. I think management needs to get down to business and get us a guy like Anthony Johnson usta be...a solid pro who can get the job done in Bibby's absense...distribute...play some D...and make the open shot from the perimeter. I'm not talking about spending big bucks - just get a solid second string PG that can be trusted to not flock things up. I agree, Teague is going to need some more seasoning to really flourish into a reliable PG, but Bibby's going to have enough rest to play in the next game ( Thursday ), so nothing TOO urgent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 I agree, Teague is going to need some more seasoning to really flourish into a reliable PG, but Bibby's going to have enough rest to play in the next game ( Thursday ), so nothing TOO urgent. Yep, maybe not too urgent now - but you can't have a spot as important as PG where there is no depth. This little injury isn't what I'm worried about...it's a long season. We have to be prepared. We can do without one of Randolph or Collins on the roster - and get a solid backup PG. (knock on wood) but if Bibby were to get a more serious injury (like a high ankle sprain) he could be out for a month and we'd be up the creek without a paddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Yeah, I agree. Teague looks scared when he's out there. It's like we drafted Acie twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnShadyRefs Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 I agree, Teague is going to need some more seasoning to really flourish into a reliable PG, but Bibby's going to have enough rest to play in the next game ( Thursday ), so nothing TOO urgent. Unfortunately, we will be saying the same thing next season. lol I would reserve my judgement about Woody and rookie point guards till all star break. If Teague doesn't show any marginal progress, then we shouldn't renew Woody's contract. The only reason why Marvin Horf and Smoove developed is because Woody had no other option but to start them. Yet after all this years, Woody still isn't really getting the most out of them. He just tries to force a square peg in a round hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Trade for Collison. Maybe Woody would trust him after what he saw last night.. I highly doubt he would though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfHawk Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Trade for Collison. Maybe Woody would trust him after what he saw last night.. I highly doubt he would though I wish we could trade for Alston or Ridnour, but anything I try with the trade machine is impossible when I try to get rid of our big flaw, Mo Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLNY7 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I still got faith in Teague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Don't see a trad3e happening. I would think that Craw will pay some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theeyo Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 maybe we can trade Rand Mo for Jason Hart or Chucky Atkins, we have enough bigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Shouldn't have traded Speedy :laughing5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Why not sign Mike Wilks to a 10 day contract? He already is famaliar with the system, but more than Likely Bibby will play Thursday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 23, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 This isn't intended to be a "Bash Jeff Teague" thread - but we have to be a bit realistic. Bibby is probably out for a week or so and we now realize that we really don't have a #2 PG who can step in and get the job done. I don't see how the Hawks can gamble this great start with nobody to handle the PG spot in case of injury. Bibby's great, but he's no Spring chicken. I think management needs to get down to business and get us a guy like Anthony Johnson usta be...a solid pro who can get the job done in Bibby's absense...distribute...play some D...and make the open shot from the perimeter. I'm not talking about spending big bucks - just get a solid second string PG that can be trusted to not flock things up. I watched Collison's 2 saturday's ago as a BU and I watched him Sat. 2 saturday's ago while playing BU, he looked scared, tentative, lost..... Saturday, he kicked our teeth in. It's interesting what attention and playing time can do for a young player. That's what Teague needs. Attention and playing time... Not to be put in the 3rd seat and told, we'll put confidence in you later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Diesael is correct. There is something wrong with the PG roster spots on the Hawks. Was it / is it the fault of our GM that Acie Law IV and now Jeff T. were neither one good PG's? Or, do we blame their failure on Woody, who has the responsibility of playing them and developing them? We know about the limited playing time. That is Woody's normal way of operating. Yet, as pointed out, CP3 went down. He is Mr. PG. The greatest thing since sliced bread. The entire team / season is lost without CP3. Right? Uh, no. Didn't happen that way. Rookie, back up PG comes in and replaces CP3. Looks lost and can't play. That was the first game or two. Now, CP3 is looking like a second string PG behind this rookie. CP3 is an all star. Yet, when you compare him to his back up, some things just don't add up for the team. With this new guy, the team is winning - - Better than they were when CP3 was starting. Does other GM's have the knack / ability to pick PG's in the draft that have the ability to come on and become good / great players in the NBA and our GM have no such ability? Why do we all go into the panic mode when Bibby goes down? Is it because we, as fans, have no trust in Agent 0 to run the point? Do we not trust our GM's ability to draft a PG? Do we not trust Woody's ability to develop a PG? Which do we not trust? Maybe it's a combination of all three. With Bibby out, Agent 0 should be our starting PG. That's what he was drafted for, to play PG for the Hawks. They have plenty of time to work with him with the huge gap between games. Since we have no real PG coach on our coaches roster and since Bibby is, in fact, our offensive leader, he should be assigned as a personal coach to Agent 0. He can't play or practice with his sprained ankle. However, there is no reason he can't sit on the bench during practice and mentor Agent 0. If he doesn't do this, who will? Hawks really have no one else as capable of doing this as Bibby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 23, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 We need to develop Teague. Big picture, we need him to be ready to start in the next 10-22 months and to be an effective role player this season. It's interesting what attention and playing time can do for a young player. That's what Teague needs. Attention and playing time... Agreed. And he needs that even when Bibby is healthy because you can't count on Bibby to stay healthy and to not see his physical skills deteriorate over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) We need to develop Teague. Big picture, we need him to be ready to start in the next 10-22 months and to be an effective role player this season. Agreed. And he needs that even when Bibby is healthy because you can't count on Bibby to stay healthy and to not see his physical skills deteriorate over time. Agree 100%! We don't need a injury to get our 3rd PG playing time when he is rookie. A seasoned vet could ride the pine and just pop in to give quality minutes. Rookies need that seasoning. Imagine if this happens in the playoffs and Teague still has not been given some quality minutes. I like Crawford but him and JJ playing a lot of minutes together at the 1 and 2 is a scary proposition. Right now we can determine the mismatches bringing Craw in off the bench. If he is our starter, and we have no PG to sub quickly, then things go bad we are in trouble on both ends of the floor. We need a true pg starting or at least getting 30 minutes a game like Bibby does. And Teague needs to get some playing time before a disaster comes along and forces it. Edited November 23, 2009 by Buzzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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