emeans Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 in the NBA by David Aldridge and Ric Bucher on ESPN. http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2003/s/2003/1023/1644859.html The media really hates the Hawks. While I don't think they are a playoff team, I definately don't think they are the worst team in the NBA. That is a stretch!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Did you look at their predictions??? Moochie Norris most improved? MIke Dunleavy coach of the year? Chris Bosh ROY the and Jim Jackson 6th man of the year?lol These guys are experts???They wre should be no doubt that Mello will be Rookie of the Year. Chad Ford is the only one with realistic predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeans Posted October 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Yeah those are some amazing picks. What made these guys experts?? I am very disappointed in David Aldridge picking us to be the worst team in the NBA. I always had respect for his knowledge but again I don't agree with his judgement on the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beav Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 "MIke Dunleavy coach of the year? " Well he amazingly did win COY his first year here in the asylum.... However, it is indeed true that monkeys will fly out of my a$$ if it happens after this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted October 23, 2003 Admin Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Teams competing for worst record are going to be Golden State, Utah, and Denver. We most likely won't but if this team comes together chemistry wise it has a shot at the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted October 23, 2003 Admin Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 he's playing well and he'll get plenty of opportunity on that team. He hasn't pulled down less than 7 boards per game so far and that's in limited minutes. He's also 3rd among rookies in scoring so far. I dunno why you'd laugh at someone calling them experts when you pick Carmelo to be ROY. I'd laugh at you and say you're just making the safe pick. ROY isn't just about scoring a lot. especially scoring a lot on a bad team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 When did Toronto become a good team? Denver has a FAR talented team compaired to Toronto. It kinda falls downhill after Vince"I'm only a scorer like Nique" Carter. Preseason means nothing....According to preseason stats Eikeze is a good player...When in fact he was 28 and had to go overseas to play because he couldn't cut the mustard. Not to mention Toronto has no rebounders so there is more chances to get rebounds. Obinna averaged 11PPG 8RPG so shouldn't be lineup him up for comeback player or something? Afterall, preseason stats mean so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Oh, and I'll take 47%fg 17.8PPG 4RPG over 10.8PPG 42%fg 7RPG...Not to mention that Mello is a guard so Bosh SHOULD out rebound him. [censored], I'd take Nene Hilero over Chris Bosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 If you read that much into other people's preseason stats...then why don't our rooks/roster fillins get somewhat sort of the same slack that you afford players on other teams? I know you're not watching any of the games (not an insult, just a fact), thus stats is all we ahve to go on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Bosh/Mello and guys are top draft picks and both should be good in the future....While players like Obinna are journeyman that have yet to stick with a team after years of being in the league. I think the most thing is that hype plays a part also. I hear it like: Bron/Mello and you hear alot even about Darko and I rarely even hear Bosh named mention. I think hype will also play a part in Mello getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted October 24, 2003 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Actually, ROY is about having the opportunity to play. I don't think Bosh will have as much opportunity as many of the other guys as long as Davis is in town. However, I do think that outside of Anthony, T J Ford has a very good shot. He's playing for a coach who used to be a good PG. He's playing on a team that has dedicated itself to the rebuild. I think this will go down like NCAA last year... Anthony, Ford, Wade, Bosh... With a surprise peek from Lampe!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted October 24, 2003 Admin Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Their only other REAL option at starting PF is Moiso, and Bosh is simply better. Unless he busts early in the season, he'll be logging heavy minutes at the 4, no problem. Visibility isn't going to be a problem. If he puts up 11/7 he'll be a strong contender for ROY. It's not all about scoring. Carmelo might score more, but lets wait and see what his FG% looks like and what he can do besides score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted October 24, 2003 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 To be truthful the Hawks and Jazz will probably battle for the worst record in the league. Memphis, Denver, and the Clipps all improved while the Hawks gave away their leading scorer for nothing, If the Hawks drastically improve on defense this year I will admit I was wrong, but Trading GRob did not improve this team. Loosing Ira Newble to Cleveland was a non-factor because he is nothing more than a fringe player and will prove that this year. Been a Hawks fan since 1978 and boo if you want, I'm just not looking through rose colored galsses like the majority on this board. Let's hope new ownership and Billy Knight can turn things around, but the signing of Steve Jackson bothers me. We have to look two or three years down the road to see what this past summer has brought to the franchise. Hawks will finish the year at somewhere around 28-54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Hawks won't have the worst record, but if we sock we will be in the top 5 lottery. Utah plays in a strong conference with a young unexperienced group, they're bound to lose alot of games eventhough Sloan will have them playing hard. I have no doubt they'll have the worst record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathway23 Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 25-57? I don't think we'll be that bad. That was our worst record ever, like 3 years ago, under Lon....young out of position Jason Terry and Lorenzen Wright, etc....I think we'll win at least in the high 30s...come on...thats not rose colored glasses, that is realizing we have some talent, and pretty good coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted October 24, 2003 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Well, I suspect that Davis will be traded for Jamison and that will make way for Bosh to be a full time 4. However, it doesn't mean that he will collect the numbers to win it. I think realistically that Ford and Mello have a better chance. Their respective teams have BUILT around them. Whereas Bosh is a part of Air Canada's puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted October 24, 2003 Admin Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 I was just commenting to hotlanta that he certainly COULD win it. I still agree with most that Carmelo is the front runner simply because of the hype and his scoring ability. His team will look to him to score as well, which will only help his stats. Hotlanta wanted to crack jokes that someone put consider him a candidate and I think he has to be considered. it's dfeinitely not a laugher to think he could win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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