You are the GM... Who are you Picking?

[Diesel]

Rk						MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
Player 1						27.9	4.7	10.4	.450	1.1	3.4	.321	3.6	7.1	.512	.502	2.0	2.8	.707	1.6	4.6	6.2	2.2	0.8	0.6	1.4	2.0	12.5
Player 2						31.1	5.0	11.3	.444	1.5	4.3	.358	3.5	7.0	.496	.512	2.4	3.0	.797	0.6	3.5	4.1	1.6	0.7	0.3	1.4	2.9	13.1

 

					MP	PER	TS%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%		OWS	DWS	WS	WS/48		OBPM	DBPM	BPM	VORP
Player 1					9500	15.3	.534	.322	.266	6.0	18.5	12.2	12.0	1.4	1.9	10.4	20.6		8.1	9.9	18.0	.091		0.2	-0.2	0.0	4.7
Player 2					6223	10.9	.553	.379	.264	2.2	12.3	7.2	7.1	1.0	0.9	10.0	19.1		2.5	2.8	5.3	.041		-2.0	-1.3	-3.4	-2.

 

So we have Player 1 and Player 2.   Same Height, just about the same weight.   You are the GM... who are you picking... why and why not?

 

NEXT COMPARISON...

Rk						MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
Player A						29.7	4.7	11.6	.403	2.4	6.5	.362	2.3	5.1	.457	.505	2.4	2.9	.843	1.0	3.8	4.8	1.9	0.8	0.2	1.0	1.6	14.2
Player B						29.7	4.2	10.0	.422	2.0	5.4	.376	2.2	4.6	.476	.523	0.7	0.9	.783	0.7	2.9	3.5	3.3	1.0	0.4	1.4	2.3	11.2

 

Rk					MP	PER	TS%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%		OWS	DWS	WS	WS/48		OBPM	DBPM	BPM	VORP
Player A					6470	13.6	.549	.562	.246	3.6	14.6	8.9	10.2	1.4	0.6	7.2	20.1		6.1	4.3	10.4	.077		0.6	-1.1	-0.5	2.5
Player B					5934	11.3	.537	.537	.092	2.4	10.4	6.4	16.0	1.6	1.0	11.7	16.6		3.6	3.0	6.6	.053		-1.0	-0.4	-1.4

 

The VORP for Player B = 1.0. 

So. In this case, they are the same height but Player A is 25 lbs heavier than Player A. 

If you're the GM, who are you picking?

 

LAST COMPARISON...

k						MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
Player X						31.8	8.9	17.9	.499	1.2	3.4	.339	7.8	14.5	.537	.532	8.1	9.9	.818	2.3	9.0	11.2	3.4	0.9	1.7	3.4	3.1	27.2
Player Y						34.2	8.6	16.2	.527	1.6	4.1	.397	7.0	12.2	.571	.577	4.4	5.3	.833	3.0	8.3	11.3	3.1	0.8	1.4	2.7	3.4	23.2

 

k					MP	PER	TS%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%		OWS	DWS	WS	WS/48		OBPM	DBPM	BPM	VORP
Player X					12270	27.8	.610	.192	.556	8.0	30.5	19.5	19.3	1.4	4.5	13.2	35.1		32.1	22.7	54.8	.214		4.9	1.6	6.4	26.1
Player Y					16472	24.7	.624	.250	.327	9.7	27.6	18.5	15.5	1.2	3.5	12.6	26.8		47.7	18.4	66.1	.193		4.7	0.1	4.8	28.3

 

In this last case, Player X is 1 inch taller and 32 lbs heavier than Player Y.   You're the GM...  Who are you picking?

[REHawksFan]

Player 1 on the basis of better boards, asts, similar pts, and greater win shares.

Player B on the basis of better shooting and more asts with similar boards.  But now that I'm looking back at it, I think I like Player A better as the shooting is fairly comparable and Player A has more ws/48

Player Y on the basis of better shooting with similar other counting stats.   

Edited March 22, 2023 by REHawksFan

[LucastheThird]

I'm not too fond of these faceless stats-based comparisons. Context matters when discussing and evaluating performance. 

[Diesel]

4 minutes ago, LucastheThird said:

I'm not too fond of these faceless stats-based comparisons. Context matters when discussing and evaluating performance. 

What exactly is context if you have all the stats?

Popularity?

Draft position?

I think many times, those are the things that lead the GM the wrong way. 

 

[akay]

Who are the players?

[Diesel]

I will release the names tonight during the Hawks game. 

 

[Diesel]

Player 1 = Aaron Gordon (First 4 years)

Player 2 = DeAndre Hunter 

Player A = Siddiq Bey

Player B = Kev Huerter  (First 3 years) 

Player X = Joel Embiid (First 7 years)

Player Y = Karl Anthony Towns