MoonKnight Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 While I am surprised like the rest of you that we obtained Robinson for so little, what are the risks? Robinson plays no D and wilts in crunch time. Does his K hinder our ability to resign JT? These are just some of the questions that come to mind after the trade. I believe this may also kill the Ira resign talk. I hope he comes to play with a positive attitude to continue the hard work exhibited during the latter part of last season. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt untill the end of the season but what do the Bucks know that we don't? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 If he thought Big Dog was gunna be a problem.Babs has been really careful since JR and I don't believe he would have done this if he thought Big DOg was gunna be bad for us. Thsi move makes the following statements... 1)Babcock's intention this time is to get to the NBA finals.He could have stayed pat and us maybe make the playoffs,but going after more talent shows he wants to really go some where this time. 2)he tells Ira he isn't collecting a paycheck from us 3)it gives us a real SF since 1994. 4)We are twice as talent as we were in the mid 90's in my opinion. We are ready to compete.I wonder how long this trade has been in talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 His legal status notwithstanding. And as far as age, he's 29 and in the prime of his career not 36 and past his prime, ala Glen Rice. Before this trade, this entire board was pondering on who can be brought in to start at the small forward spot. We heard names like Donyell Marshall, James Posey, Matt Harpring, even Grant Hill. I think we got the best of the ones that are actually available. This team's major weakness has been the small forward position ever since #21 got traded. Think about it. We've had utter GARBAGE at the spot for most of the past eight years. From Danny Manning to Ken Norman to Stacey Augmon to Ty Corbin to Willie Burton to Henry James back to Corbin to Chris Crawford to Kukoc to Ira Newble to end last year. Could any of them even make guys even remotely think of defending them in order for their team to have a chance to win? I'll answer that for you; HELL NO. It's no small wonder that guys like Scottie Pippen and Grant Hill would lick their chops when they saw us coming up on their schedule, even when Deke was still here. Before this trade, we wondered about sneaking into the playoffs with 40 wins and an 8 seed. Now I'll be shocked if we don't get at least 46 wins and a 6 seed instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nique21 Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 He is an outstanding defensive player, and he learned how to score before the end of last year. I like Ira a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs03 Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 so do i. but there is no way we are gonna give him $3 million/year contract for 3 years just becoz he showed great defense ability for half a season. if he accept for $1 million/year, we can sign him for 2 years with the second year being team options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted August 3, 2002 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Not saying that we have lost interest in Ira... BUT now... Why do we need Ira and his contract demands. GRob will play most of the 48 minutes at Sf. CC is a capable BU who Jordan said "Played good defense". Ira held out for Big money.... and we got the BIG DOG. Now, the negotiation parts are over. If he wants to be a Hawk, he should sign a 2 yr 3 million dollar deal. If Not, go elsewhere. I think getting a big man or 2 is more important anyway. Somebody call Kevin Willis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawksfreak Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 We need to resign Ira he will be a great backup and he will hold up our bench! Try to sign Kevin a Udonis too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 I would like to see Ira back in the ATL but not at the expense of over paying him. There are guys out there who can be a defensive player for us without the big contract. Hey I was just thinking that since we got the Big Dog we can affored to take a chance on a player like Lee Benson. Benson displayed a great defensive prowess while playing on the Juco level(if I remember correctly he had like 3bpg). I know it was just Juco level competition, but who knows on a team like ours he could come in and contribute for us,even if it is nothing but defense.A guy like him would be glad to get the rookie minimum of 300,000 a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage11 Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Well about now Ira is "green" with envy instead of green with money. I say we get him to sign on as cheaply as possible and ride Reef and Dog to the playoffs. Go Hawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUATLFAN Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Ira, must know that his demand power has decreased and he might be willing to take less money now. I would like to see him here as well, but with Bigdogs salary he can't get what he is asking. Let him shop if he wants that kind of money, my bet is he won't get it. We will see him again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHawkDown Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Ira would be nice to have for his defense but we are already paying CC more than he is worth we might as well gets some miles from him. We should definitely grab Haslim he is the steal of the year. Willis? He is a one year option... Do we really need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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