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ESPN and it's stupid polls with stupid results. They probably spend about 5 minutes coming up with this stuff and it always favors the Boston, Chicago and LA teams that actually vote in these things. Was there a poll about Dallas vs LAL game 4? It probably went something like this: What happens in game 4? Lakers come back and win series (62%), Lakers take it to 6 games and lose (35%), Lakers get blown out by 36 (3%)?

Teague has been great but we do miss Hinrich in this series. When Teague got off to the hot start in game 3 to keep us close I knew we were in for a long night because Teague wouldn't play like that all night. Teague has gave us some good offense/intensity but I think our guys sometimes miss Hinrich's poise on the court. We are better when we run but sometimes we need to slow the game down and let it come to us. When we get down big and try and speed the game up it just gives a hot opponent more and more shots, and the deficit just grows each minute (see game 3). And of course we miss Hinrich's defense too. Either way though, does anybody really think we would be leading the series 3-1 if we had Hinrich starting? I think it's pretty much a wash, it would just be nice to have both point guards so we could use each when needed.

Yup, the officials are going to blow the whistle when we look and breathe on Rose. If the officials are calling the game like that, it is really important for our guards to drive and our forwards to bang and force the officials to call fouls on the Bulls too. We can't let the Bulls get 2 points at the stripe and come back and force a three. We got to match easy points for easy points and I think we will be okay because our guys are more capable of making the tough shots.

Doesn't sound like much of a "fan" to me. Either way, I hope Nique is okay! Not that he has improved a whole lot, but his broadcasting has really grown on me over the last year.

Good to hear about Smoove. Ever since I saw Brady walk off the field after a knee injury and miss the whole year I always worry about these types of injuries. Love him or hate him, we aren't going anywhere unless Smith is healthy.

Supporter is 100% right. Rathbun will now start with the Hawks have had ____ months in a row with a .500 or better record. It's always going to be something positive, but when you think about how bad we were for the early part of the 2000's it's hard to even complain about the "new" streak.

Mixed feeling's about this, but I think we need him. I feel this is one of those "you don't know what you got until it's gone" type of situations. Outside of a couple of games in 2011, Jamal has been pretty bad recently. Most fans seem to have a what have you done for me lately attitude. I think now that the deadline has passed and he knows he is here for the rest of the year we will see Jamal start playing with a little more confidence. If it is a good contract I don't see why we shouldn't keep him. Lord knows we need guys that can give us some offense when Joe/Al aren't scoring.

And we assume this pick wouldn't be traded off like our second first round pick last year? Almost every mock trade on this forum has included either Teague or Jordan Crawford, our last two first round picks. I wish we would have the pick too but who really thinks the ASG would have kept the pick? Or drafted somebody that would have got minutes? To this franchise the first round pick doesn't mean much.

I really think making another trade depends on our plans going into next offseason. If we don't plan on keeping Jamal then we really should make another trade. I know we got the dude for almost nothing, but that gives us no reason to let him walk for nothing.

Albeit I don't really post much, but I've been on this site for 4 years and in your two days of posting and you have about 30 more posts than I do. I see you don't like this trade but give it time, I think it will grow on you.

It's not obvious whether this is a good or bad trade, but after thinking a lot about it I like it. A few points... 1- Bibby was one of my favorite players because he hit clutch shots, but this year he has only been hitting threes and not really doing much (or anything) else. His defense has been horrible and we will obviously get better there with Joe not guarding teams pg's. Lets not forget that Hinrich has been playing behind Wall and Arenas (for some part) of this season. So he hasn't really been a true PG but he makes shots, like Bibby, and plays A LOT more D than Bibby. It's an obvious upgrade to me. 2- We lose Mo Evans. I don't know if the headband was a lame attempt to make him feel cool and in turn start hitting shots, but I couldn't stand watching this guy play. Mo is now gone which is a positive for me. 3- JC55. I actually liked Crawford and this is the one piece I'm a little upset about. On draft night I was hoping we would take him and became rather pissed when we didn't, followed by being elated after we traded for him. He is the first guard that we have drafted in awhile that could make shots and I thought that was a really good thing. Nothing about losing him seems like an upgrade to me. 4-Let's just pretend the first is for Armstrong? Who cares? Do we even know if we would have kept the pick if we had it? There are some negatives in this deal but the positives do outweigh them. I think getting Hinrich will help this team immensely and hopefully Armstrong provides some quality minutes for us. Armstrong and Crawford are definitely the wild cards in this deal.

Count me in the crowd that is going to miss Bibby. He had his problems, more so as he aged, but I always felt that he tried really hard. Problem was the results just were not there.

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Will I be angry if the Hawks don't make a trade? Of course I will be, but to think I will stop watching the Hawks and root for another team? Definitely not. I'm with you AHawks89; good riddance to those who choose not to follow Hawks basketball any longer.

It's sad but very true, which is why message boards are so popular. As I was taught though, a good journalist and their story is only as good as their interviews and sources are.

FWIW, I recall during broadcasts that 'Nique absolutely loves Hinrich and his game. I don't know how much pull he has in the front office with his position but I'm sure his opinion does carry some weight.

I sometimes wonder if people know what bleacher report actually is. Not saying that the articles aren't good but anybody on here could write an article on there. The quotes are just things you find other people say in other articles, not from an actual interview with somebody.

Considering almost every trade proposal I see on here includes one of our first round picks from the last two years, I'm guessing they really don't mean much to most of us.

Does anybody remember the owners emails? I remember I sent Gearon and Levinson some emails during the Josh Smith free agency offseason about my displeasure on how they were handling things. Of course I'm nobody to them but it did feel good to let them know how I felt. If we are, the fans, aren't happy about the way they are handling things we should try and let them know.

LeBron has always mentioned the Hawks as one of the tougher teams in the East when he was with the Cavs. Usually it is about coming to Philips Arena to play though. Either way, it's good that at least the reigning MVP shows us a little bit of respect.

Chicago has definitely improved this year. I really get tired of hearing Barkley say "there are 4 legitimate teams in the east" repeatedly on Inside the NBA. When I first heard I thought he was talking about the Celtics, Heat, Magic, and the Hawks. He actually leaves the Hawks out and puts the Bulls in. The Bulls really haven't proved anything yet but they get so much praise. One thing to remember when evaluating them is the fact they play in a horrible division. The second place team, Indiana, is currently the #9 seed in the East. Chicago's record in their division is 11-0, making them 23-14 outside of their division. If the season ended today we would have 4 teams in our division make the playoffs. Yes I know the Bobcats don't really deserve it, but it is what it is. Teams coming from the SE are going to have a much tougher schedule than the Bulls will.

Free throws? Josh isn't going to break Jamal or Reggie Millers record of free throws after a made three point shot. He isn't going to break it shooting jumpers either. I'm glad he is shooting those frees like he did a couple of years ago but he isn't really getting to the line on a consistent basis.

I've only looked on the HawksTicket Exchange a couple times and the prices seemed pretty high (sometimes higher than using the regular box office). However, I do use Stubhub a lot. You can really find some great deals on there, upper level seats are as low as .99 cents for many of the weekday and some weekend games. The key is looking for what type of delivery method you want. If you get the instant download it's usually 5.95ish added on to your whole order. If you get the last minute pick up it's about 15 dollars added to your whole order and you pick them up at this random building lol. If you are picking between the two I'd say go with Stubhub. I've probably used it for about 15 different games and have never had any problems. Hope this helps.

I was at that Wilkins/Durant vs Hawks game unfortunately. What a heart breaker, that Durant 3 to win the game was such a lucky shot. It's funny how much things have changed since that game though. The Hawks were still an "up and coming" team and Joe Johnson was obviously our best player. During the "lets go Hawks" chants most of the people around me were instead chanting "lets go Joe". Now here we are a few years later and the perception of Joe has changed so much. If he was out 4-6 weeks back then I think most of the fans would have already been talking about a top 3 lottery pick.

I agree, Joe has been a part of the problem this year. To be fair though, I think we have had A LOT of problems this year so it just isn't him. Joe does do a lot to help us when he is not scoring (assists, commanding double teams) but he gets paid to score the ball for us, not to pass. We NEED Joe to be a force on the offensive end. With that said, I don't think the loss of Joe will impact our record that much. We have guys that will step up and we weren't really piling up wins with him in there anyways. The one thing we need though is for Joe to be the Joe of old when he gets back. As of now, the Hawks are looking like a 4ish or so type team in the East. If we actually want to make some noise we will need Joe to get back to the player he once was. So basically we won't miss the 2010 version of Joe Johnson but if we want to make any noise in the playoffs we need the prior Joe Johnson to show up when he returns.