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Quote: I don't think the T-Wolves are as pathetic as the Clips or Grizz. Chris Wallace pretty much said here, have Pau, I don't need anything and the Clips sign B-Dizzle to make a title run with Brand and Elton jumps ship, etc. The Wolves at least had KG which made them at least relevant. I believe the Clips and the Grizzlies have been to the playoffs in the past 6 or 7 years. I don't think the T-wolves have. The Clips traded Elton Brand because he was always injured. The Grizzlies got back some cap relief and a few "pieces" in Marc Gasol, and the Laker's draft pick. From what I've heard, Memphis is high on Marc Gasol, and if he has a breakout year that'll definitely change people's opinions about the Gasol trade.

Quote: You are calling other people passive-aggressive? Talk about being hypocritical. You can't even answer a simple question relating to the thread that you started. I think it is clear, Dolfan, that he does not have anyone in mind.

Quote: Quote: The trick is to get really good players but not the great ones who will be gone in a year. He is putting together a bunch of athletes that will get up and down the floor. Love the style of play. Other than Derrick Favors the only players that Coach Hewitt seems to be recruiting this year should be there for at least two years. The style of play is really fun to watch but we need to be a little better defensively because it doesn't seem like many teams in the ACC will be able to outscore Tech. Yeah. Derrick Favors is definitely a "one and done".

Quote: Nut hugger The Timberwolves have been irrelevent for quite a while. I guess you could say they are the most miserable NBA franchise.

Quote: Quote: Crittenton is a SG not a PG,and we made the right pick.He's done nothing for people to think we made the wrong pick.If he did he wouldn't be about to be on his 3rd team before he starts his 2nd season. Javaris is a point guard not a shooting guard. He can score when he wants to but he is always trying to set up his teammates before he does anything and he can defend. While I wanted him at #11 I'm happy with Acie but if there was a way that we could get him without giving up a future 1st I would be all for it. He really can play both positions. However, he is closer to being a SG than a PG. I think he could be a PG with work and reps, but he could play now as a SG.

Quote: Quote: Quote: yeah,It doesn't change my opinion on his being a good NBA PG but at the same time he should be playing a lot better than he has as a sophomore.He may not be racking up assists but he shouldn't be turning it over as much either.and he's playing off the ball more so he should be scoring more. Like I said, he is a pass first pg and you are asking him to do something that isn't his first instinct... as far as TOs go - SL is where TOs are born. and like I said it doesn't change my opinion on him being a good NBA PG,not even a little bit. Conley is definitely overrated, in my opinion. I think players like Crittenton and Law proved more in college, as they were the leaders of their teams. Oden made Conley's job a whole lot easier, and without another skilled big man to feed, I don't think Conley will ever amount to much in the NBA. I see him becoming a Speedy Claxton-type player before he becomes a transcendent PG like Paul.

Quote: Paul Hewitt is quietly putting a solid class together and if he gets Mfon Udofia and Derrick Favors GT will be one of the top teams in the country for the 09-10 season. Iman Shumpert, Derrick Favors, and Glen Rice Jr. would make Tech one of the toughest teams in the ACC. Not to mention Gani Lawal will play much better with a guard like Shumpert.

Quote: No but I am really hoping the Force Unlimited pans out. I loved the KOTOR games. After this E3, it's official that I will never see the conclusion to one of my favorite games, Shenmue.

Quote: UGA VS ASU. I think this game and the UF game is going to determine if GA plays for the BCS. Every game UGA plays will determine if they play for the BCS. However, I agree, if they lose to ASU (which really isn't that good) then they will be out of the BCS race. UGA sucks anyways. Go Tech!

Quote: Quote: The Nique for Manning trade always gets overblown in my opinion. The Hawks had a better winning percentage after the trade.(look it up if you don't believe me)..As far as getting booted in the 2nd round,,well thats the same exact thing that happened to the Hawks with Nique. Thats as far as they ever got with him.. The killer part of the deal was Manning refusing to resign with the Hawks.. I don't put that much stock into the 2nd half being better than the first. That could just be ease of schedule... Similar to us this year. However, I believe that Nique would have carried us past Indy. He was used to making things happen when he was the one being keyed on. I also think Babcock didn't consider the weight on the city. The City was tore up from that move. First time I remember a move effecting a whole city that strongly. And I remember some moves. I remember Deion Sanders Leaving. I remember Phil Neikro and Dale Murphy saying goodbye. I remember The Atlanta Flames...!!! And the Chiefs!!!! Still nothing was more devastating than Nique being traded. I remember I was about 6 or 7 when they got rid of Deion. I was so disappointed, because Deion was definitely my favorite football player at the time. I refused to watch the Falcons for a quite few years after that. In fact, I didn't start watching them again until they got Mike Vick.

Quote: Marvin Williams is the truth.

Quote: Some good newer humorous ones....Kung Fu Shuffle or Shaolin Soccer. Kung Fu Hustle was a surprisingly good movie. It's a little cartoony, but if you enjoy comedy and kung fu, it's definitely worth seeing. Tony Jaa's movies are also very good martial arts movies. The plots are not good, but the action is top-knotch. He pulls some ridiculous stunts that make Jackie Chan look like Billy Blanks.

Quote: Who is the best QB in college this year coming..? My thoughts are: Tibow or Daniel Tebow, hands down. Chase Daniels is good, but Tebow can scramble and has a solid arm. He's also got great size. He reminds me a lot of Vince Young..

Quote: Quote: Quote: You and foeteen are right. Woody shouldn't have played his bench down the playoff stretch. It was far to late then. But what about when this team was losing 5 or 6 games in a row? What about when the games got out of hand and he didn't put in his bench early enough? What about when he admitted to playing his starters to much only to turn around and do the same thing. A young, under talented group such as the Hawks bench cannot be thrust into action, they must be developed. Woody didn't develop his bench over the 82 game season in practice or the real games. If he had been incorporating them steadily over the course of the season they would have been more of a threat during the playoff run. Like when Mario started for MW and played fairly well. Woody sent him back to the bench afterward and gave him his usual 30 seconds at the end of quarters. That would have been the perfect time to get Mario comfortable on the floor so he could help this team more. The reason I bring up Phil Jackson is because when his bench fails they turn and look expecting to be yanked. Only Phil doesn't do it. He makes them work thu there problems. Over an 82 game season guys like Farmar, Vujacic, Turiaf, Walton and the Rad man all got better and helped there team get into and also win in the playoffs. Whats the difference between Turiaf and Solo? You don't think Salim could be as good as Vujacic or Farmar? Richardson may be inexperienced but showed he can shoot just like the Rad man in L.A. So stop bringing up the playoff run when i'm referring to the entire season where these players should have had on the job training on the floor. Remember, this team wasn't even a 500. ball club mid season so its not like we were on some great role that the chemistry would have been affected. 37-45 and we had no time to develop a bench? Makes no sense! I agree that Woodson should have played his bench more during those garbage minutes. Farmar isn't a great player, but at least he has a position. He is a PG, and plays the position decently. Vujajic is a good defender and a good perimeter shooter, so no, I do not think Salim could have been as good as either. The problem with Salim is that the Hawks tried to make him something he is not, a PG. Salim should have been used like Eddie House, Ben Gorden and Earl Boykins. Farmar never strikes me as the Pg when he is in the game. Either Walton or Vujacic seems to handle the ball more than him. He is a good jump shooter and I believe Salim could play his role on the lakers. I don't believe any player on the Lakers bench would have been developed properly on the Hawks bench. Salims main problem is his defense IMO. Salim's main problem is that he isn't as good a shooter as advertised. He would come in a lot of games and throw up a lot of bricks. The fact that he really is a SG that isn't a consistent shooter and that he can't run PG in limited minutes are probably the main reasons he didn't get a lot of playing time.

Quote: Philly has no answer for us. I think our frontline would get us by LA and DC/Baltimore. Philly has no answer for any team. No team has an answer for Dwight Howard and Josh Smith. I think this just goes to show a lot of basketball talent comes out of Georgia, and they never go to school in GA. What is Tech, UGA, GA State doing wrong ?

Quote: Espn has this thing on sportsnation where they have various "hotbed cities for basketball talent" seeded against each other in a mythical tounament. The Atlanta team is PG Louis Williams SG Javarus Crittendon SF Jarvis Hayes PF Josh Smith C Dwight Howard 6th man Randolph Morris We are going up against Philly. Our biggest comp is Beltway team and Los Angeles. http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnatio...cityhighbracket I'd say our biggest comp is LA and Chicago. The Beltway team is just a bunch of scorers, which probably wouldn't work in real life. They also have no real big man. Also, Brandon Jennings hasn't even played a game of college ball, so how does he even get consideration ?

Quote: You and foeteen are right. Woody shouldn't have played his bench down the playoff stretch. It was far to late then. But what about when this team was losing 5 or 6 games in a row? What about when the games got out of hand and he didn't put in his bench early enough? What about when he admitted to playing his starters to much only to turn around and do the same thing. A young, under talented group such as the Hawks bench cannot be thrust into action, they must be developed. Woody didn't develop his bench over the 82 game season in practice or the real games. If he had been incorporating them steadily over the course of the season they would have been more of a threat during the playoff run. Like when Mario started for MW and played fairly well. Woody sent him back to the bench afterward and gave him his usual 30 seconds at the end of quarters. That would have been the perfect time to get Mario comfortable on the floor so he could help this team more. The reason I bring up Phil Jackson is because when his bench fails they turn and look expecting to be yanked. Only Phil doesn't do it. He makes them work thu there problems. Over an 82 game season guys like Farmar, Vujacic, Turiaf, Walton and the Rad man all got better and helped there team get into and also win in the playoffs. Whats the difference between Turiaf and Solo? You don't think Salim could be as good as Vujacic or Farmar? Richardson may be inexperienced but showed he can shoot just like the Rad man in L.A. So stop bringing up the playoff run when i'm referring to the entire season where these players should have had on the job training on the floor. Remember, this team wasn't even a 500. ball club mid season so its not like we were on some great role that the chemistry would have been affected. 37-45 and we had no time to develop a bench? Makes no sense! I agree that Woodson should have played his bench more during those garbage minutes. Farmar isn't a great player, but at least he has a position. He is a PG, and plays the position decently. Vujajic is a good defender and a good perimeter shooter, so no, I do not think Salim could have been as good as either.

Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: from what i've seen, woody will let you hang yourself. if you come out and play and show that you got some skill, try your best to improve he'll play you. but when you don't perform, or try your hardest, or wost of all, don't play defense, that's when the floor disappears from under your feet. btw, the hawks had to make the playoffs last year, could you imagine what it would be like if we didn't. he had to do what he had to do, if you don't see that you're just being spiteful. Let you hang yourself? Have you taken a look at how the minutes broke down this season. Woody didn't allow anyone other than JJ, the starters and Chillz to prove themselves. You are making excuses for a man who even admits himself he made mistakes. How do you account for his assistants wanting him to play Acie more? Woody is bull headed and stuck on his own understanding. Him not developing his bench amounted to 37-45. And you and others are bragging on this as if the man did a have decent job last season. Watching NBA tv last season even Peter Vescey would comment on how the starters played to many minutes when they would recap the Hawks games. If you don't see that then you're being shortsided. And I am happy to see another man get outta the hood into the suburbs. But 37-45 is the Zone 3, cleveland avenue, of the NBA. If Woody wants to get this Hawks squad to Buckhead then he needs to change his coaching style now. If Acie Law would have gave our team a chance to win last year, Mike Woodson would have played him. We needed to win and go to the playoffs, not develop our young players. Our bench is just not skilled enough to get the consistent minutes everyone wanted Woodson to give. Mario West ? Solomon Jones ? Jeremy Richardson ? C'mon man, if the Hawks were to cut them right now, I doubt any of those guys would ever find a team where they would get the PT the Hawks gave them last year. If you think playing those guys would have made the difference between 37 wins and whatever figure you had in mind, you're wrong. we lost games Acie Law was playing well and got pulled from.Woody cost us more games than Law could have.We shouldn't have had to limp into the playoffs if it wasn't for him. We did ? Do you have an example ? Are you implying we lost those games because Woody pulled him ? Look, I'm no Mike Woodson fan. However, you can't blame him for limping into the playoffs. Doc Rivers said it best when everyone was trying to hail him as a "legendary" coach, and he replied that the players did all the work to get where they are at or something along those lines. Bottom line, we limped in the playoffs because our players played like they wanted to limp into the playoffs. Also, there are very few games when what Woody did directly resulted in us losing. Of course, you could come up with a bunch of theories and hypotheticals, but it's the players that play. It's the players that shoot, defend, and rebound. However, whenever they don't do that well, everyone wants to blame Mike Woodson. When we make the playoffs running an 8-man rotation year round, people get mad and call out Mike Woodson because he didn't give a bunch of scrubs some burn. If we would have missed the playoffs this year, people would have whined about not making the playoffs in a weak Eastern Conference. Sometimes people need to let go of their vendettas and just things for what they are.

Quote: Quote: from what i've seen, woody will let you hang yourself. if you come out and play and show that you got some skill, try your best to improve he'll play you. but when you don't perform, or try your hardest, or wost of all, don't play defense, that's when the floor disappears from under your feet. btw, the hawks had to make the playoffs last year, could you imagine what it would be like if we didn't. he had to do what he had to do, if you don't see that you're just being spiteful. Let you hang yourself? Have you taken a look at how the minutes broke down this season. Woody didn't allow anyone other than JJ, the starters and Chillz to prove themselves. You are making excuses for a man who even admits himself he made mistakes. How do you account for his assistants wanting him to play Acie more? Woody is bull headed and stuck on his own understanding. Him not developing his bench amounted to 37-45. And you and others are bragging on this as if the man did a have decent job last season. Watching NBA tv last season even Peter Vescey would comment on how the starters played to many minutes when they would recap the Hawks games. If you don't see that then you're being shortsided. And I am happy to see another man get outta the hood into the suburbs. But 37-45 is the Zone 3, cleveland avenue, of the NBA. If Woody wants to get this Hawks squad to Buckhead then he needs to change his coaching style now. If Acie Law would have gave our team a chance to win last year, Mike Woodson would have played him. We needed to win and go to the playoffs, not develop our young players. Our bench is just not skilled enough to get the consistent minutes everyone wanted Woodson to give. Mario West ? Solomon Jones ? Jeremy Richardson ? C'mon man, if the Hawks were to cut them right now, I doubt any of those guys would ever find a team where they would get the PT the Hawks gave them last year. If you think playing those guys would have made the difference between 37 wins and whatever figure you had in mind, you're wrong.

Quote: I think we squeak in. If any team drops it will be the Cavs. There is a reason they are called the LeBrons. Its Lebron and 11 statues. Having Bibby for a year should help tremendously. With Acie and Chillz off the bench and hopefully a FA, and Horf in year 2, I have to think we will be better than the Cavs and possibly the Raps. Probably goes down like this: 1. Boston 2. Philly 3. Orlando 4. Detroit 5. The Washington Arenas 6. Hawks 7. Toronto 8. Miami I think Miami takes a huuuge leap with healthy Wade, Marion, Beasley. You think the worse team in the league last year will make the playoffs before last year's defending EC champions ? I don't see it. Sure Miami added another scorer, but what about their D ? They have no big man, unless you want to count the oft-injured Mourning. They're going to drop 120 points every night and give up 140.

Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: You have to cheer for this guy if you are a Hawk fan. The determination of this kid makes me think he will succeed. I was one of the people that doubted him after his rookie season, but it's good to know that he's taking it upon himself to get better and not making excuses. There are signs of a future leader there. I hope he surprises the naysayers this season, including me. yeah it would feel great to have gotten two great players and leaders in one draft.considering how we wasted every one but two picks before that. Which picks were the " every one but two" ? I don think Smoove, Chills, and Marv were wasted. Shellhead was a bust but at least it turned into Bibby. Marvin was a wasted pick.The 04 draft and 07 draft was our only two good drafts under Knight. Care to explain how Marvin is a "wasted pick" ? or are you just a raging Marvin hater ?

Quote: Marvin/Speedy to Minn... Madsen/M.Miller to Atlanta. Why this trade: It makes Minny Young and exciting. You're talking: Foye, McCants, Marvin, Love, and Jefferson. Marvin gives them a midrange shooter to go with their Big man dominance down low. Jefferson is going to be a beast either way. However, you put Marvin and McCants out there and it helps give Jefferson room to work without having to give up many touches. Miller would space the floor, but he would require a lot of touches to be effective. Moreover, McCants is a more athletic, defensive version of Miller. For Atlanta... Mike Miller is what we really need. A 3 point Bomber. Place JJ at the 3, Miller at the 2 or vice versa.. who cares. Spread the floor out completely with JJ, Miller, and Bibby on the 3 point line and allow Horf and Smoove to work inside. No thanks. Mike Miller is not that good, and is past his prime.

Quote: Quote: IKobe and LBJ also played terrible when doubled constantly, their teammates couldn't take pressure off of them, so they couldn't make teams pay for doubling. This was JJ's problem because we can't shoot. Just re-watch the 1st half of the season and you'll see what I'm talking about. By the way, LBJ has never had anyone on his teams to take any pressure off of him. He constantly beats double and triple teams while averaging 30 ppg. LeBron is better than Joe.

Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: This trade makes us worse and we will only have Childress to play the 3 if we re-sign him. We still have several people who can play the three. What we're talking about is a 7 footer who may end up being a C... with great athleticism... for Marvin. Moreover, just imagine the ratings!!! If we move Marvin the only people that can play the 3 are Joe and Childress. Yi is as much of a center as Dirk is and if you care about ratings go watch the Lakers. If we have Horf,.... A Smoove, Yi, Horf Frontcourt can work very well. I'm not against a three forward frontcourt if one of them is a 7 footer. Your not against anything as long as Marvin is no longer on the team. No... I want Value back for Marvin. I think that you have a lot of commentation about this trade, but do you doubt the value that we get back?? Yes I do doubt the value that we get back because Yi isn't very good and KVH is a joke. Definitely.

Quote: Yeah i made one a couple of weeks ago..... I never noticed that after JJ crossed him up and hit the shot, Powe looks down at his shoes as if they're the reason he fell on his face.