Blunt91 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I was thinking that maybe having Salim Stoudamire in the starting lineup with JJ would be better than having Josh Childress in the lineup mainly because of his speed. I can see the Hawks running a lineup like last year's Illinois team where Salim Stoudamire(who has good speed & decent handles) brings the ball up the court and then in the halfcourt set gives up the ball to Joe Johnson to set up the Offense. This is the same scheme that Illinois ran alot of times with Dee Brown & Deron Williams. Stoudamire plays the role of Dee Brown and Joe Johnson plays the role of Deron Williams. I just don't think that neither Childress or Joe Johnson have the speed and handles to handle a trap in the backcourt should the other team play full court defense. I think Tyronn Lue would be better coming off the bench because at least have someone capable of running the offense when Joe is not in there. I think Joe can do a decent job in running the set plays but I think he will struggle when they send traps at him to get the ball out of his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 no, chill is our 3rd best player, soon to be 2nd best player and he's gonna be our leader we need him starting i think our end of game lineup will be jj/salim/chill/?/zaza with al/smoove/marvin fighting over who is best in crunch time to play that pf spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Hawks will substitute a lot this year, I believe, keeping fresh players on the floor all the time and runnin' and gunnin' all night. With almost every Hawk being able to play more than one position and all of them young and full of energy, we may see them try to run the other teams into the ground. I expect a variety of lineups every night. Should make things very interesting. I'm ready for some action! GO HAWKS !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 the good news is that we should never have a bad player at 1-4 backup center is questionable, but the other 4 can put 48mpg of good players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcorley Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Most NBA teams don't play that way. At best you'll have an 8 maybe a 9 man rotation and that's about it. NOW, which 8 or 9 players that play can and probably will change for game to game based on match-ups and other variables. But, you aren't going to see all 12 coming in and out running and gunning...not gonna happen. Not in the NBA... What will be interesting to see is which of the younger guys gains Woody's trust throughout the year and EARNS more pt because he comes from that Larry Brown school and won't play the youngsters early unless they're able to earn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFan31 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Great way in putting that. I also feel the Hawks will have a good player to put from the 1 through 4 position for 48 minutes JJ/Lue/Salim Chillz/Salim/Delk Smoove/Marvin/Chillz Al/Smoove/Marvin Zaza/Batista/Collier So I see the only position being the center position being our weakest link. Now that can change if Zaza has a breakout year and if Batista really impresses, works hard and does the thing he did in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted September 13, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I believe that J-Chill is one of our better players. I believe Salim will have problems with TOs... I would keep Chill out there even if he has to play 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Quote: I was thinking that maybe having Salim Stoudamire in the starting lineup with JJ would be better than having Josh Childress in the lineup mainly because of his speed. I can see the Hawks running a lineup like last year's Illinois team where Salim Stoudamire(who has good speed & decent handles) brings the ball up the court and then in the halfcourt set gives up the ball to Joe Johnson to set up the Offense. This is the same scheme that Illinois ran alot of times with Dee Brown & Deron Williams. Stoudamire plays the role of Dee Brown and Joe Johnson plays the role of Deron Williams. I just don't think that neither Childress or Joe Johnson have the speed and handles to handle a trap in the backcourt should the other team play full court defense. I think Tyronn Lue would be better coming off the bench because at least have someone capable of running the offense when Joe is not in there. I think Joe can do a decent job in running the set plays but I think he will struggle when they send traps at him to get the ball out of his hands. As evidenced by his college career and summer league Salim does not have the handles either, so I rather stick with the more talented duo of Chill and JJ. If the Hawks are having a problem bringing the ball up the court versus a press then they would need to bring a true ballhandler into the game. The closest thing on the Hawks roster is Lue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted September 14, 2005 Moderators Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 I don't think Salim should be starting but I think the Salim/JJ backcourt will be deadly when they play together and really spread the floor. You sure can't cheat off of either of them like you could Atlanta's guards last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 they are also both clutch players and can make that game winning shot (and want to make it) salim won 6 games last year (they only play like 30 games in college season?) with buzzer beater shots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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