Premium Member Peoriabird Posted February 21, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Quote: but he is still a hell of a player, and he gets wins. He was in the lottery the last 2 years so what are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 if we got AI for an Al package, we would still have JJ who is better than anyone not named AI for the sixers. AI JJ Marvin Smoove Zaza is a playoff team IMO. The only weak link on D is zaza, and AI and JJ alone have enough offense to carry a team. I mean we agree that AI is not the answer, but he would make us significantly better in the short run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted February 21, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Quote: but he would make us significantly better in the short run I don't know this to be true but we didn't wait all of this time to go back to the Pete Babcock days of shooting for the 8th seed with aging vererans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I agree all the way on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 What do you mean? Getting AI only consitiutes one older guy. Remember Phoenix was nothing until they added Steve Nash, who is 32. I don't want to be the Bulls and wait for 4 or 5 kids to grow and get good together..they still haven't gotten it right yet. You need youth with veterans...if we got A.I. and drafted a decent big man.... AI/Ivey JJ/Salim Marvin/Donta Smith Smoove/Shelden Williams Zaza/David Andersen That team is better than any team in the East not named the Pistons or the Heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted February 21, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Quote: AI/Ivey JJ/Salim Marvin/Donta Smith Smoove/Shelden Williams Zaza/David Andersen That team is better than any team in the East not named the Pistons or the Heat. How is this supporting cast better than philly's supporting cast? We got no allstars nor do we have a single player in the rookie/sophmore game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyDC Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 trade AI to the hawks and do not get Joe Johnson back i will cry. really. that suggested trade is a joke for us. the hawks should do it in a heartbeat if offered. i would be crushed just like i was when we dealt chuck barkley for hornaceck and those two bums. that trade sucks for the sixers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted February 21, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Quote: trade AI to the hawks and do not get Joe Johnson back i will cry. really. that suggested trade is a joke for us. the hawks should do it in a heartbeat if offered. i would be crushed just like i was when we dealt chuck barkley for hornaceck and those two bums. that trade sucks for the sixers. Didn't the Hawks beat your sixers with AI? I thought so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyDC Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 umm..and that proves??? only players on the hawks i would want in a trade are Joe and Marvin williams. anyone else ya'll can keep. i would take Al, but I doubt he would re-sign with us so it would be a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 We all know that the all star games is all marketing and politics..which is why Yao Ming started after missing half the season, and it is the reason why Sheed was on the team and Dwight Howard wasn't. But to address your question it is the way they would work together. JJ and AI would be the best backcourt in the NBA. Bar none. JJ would be the best teammate that AI has ever had..including Webber. Marvin will have a better all round game than Iggy. Webber is better than Josh, but Josh has better knees and can run with AI Zaza is not as good as Dalembert but is improving in every aspect everyday. I haven't looked at the money closely so my lineup assumes that we couldn't afford another free agent but, I could be wrong about that. Maybe we could add a Kelvin Cato or another defensive big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeareess Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Quote: trade AI to the hawks and do not get Joe Johnson back i will cry. really. that suggested trade is a joke for us. the hawks should do it in a heartbeat if offered. i would be crushed just like i was when we dealt chuck barkley for hornaceck and those two bums. that trade sucks for the sixers. I wouldn't blame you. But if my Hawks trade JJ and get back AI, I'll cry too. I don't think AI is enough to build around and to short change rebuilding to win 40 games for a year or two is just not worth it. I really wouldn't trade for a player of his age and contract unless it was overwhelmingly in our favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyDC Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 i agree with you 100% gonna be hard to trade a ~6' scoring combo guard who is 30+. I wouldnt trade joe johnson for him if i was the hawks. i like some of the hawks players (not josh childress or tyronn lue) and i want to see ya'll team do well. i hope you guys can trade Al for a nice PG (maybe watson, and someone). dont see why everyone is beating up the hawks for taking marvin. he will be better than CP3 in the long run. just need to make couple of more moves (PG, big man or 2) and develop some O for josh smith and you guys will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Wait a minute...some of you guys think we can't win with one of the top 5 guards in NBA history, but we can win with Nene and Earl freaking Watson...man please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted February 21, 2006 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Quote: How is this supporting cast better than philly's supporting cast Webber and Dalembert are both halfcourt players. If we got AI, it's obvious that our game would be run and gun. That's why we can beat them now... We change the tempo to run and gun and run them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted February 21, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I would pull the trigger on an Al for AI trade. I'd take the risk with him falling apart given his toughness and high level of play. It would make us relevant again and bring some $$ into the coffers to fuel resigning our young guys later. Marvin would adapt just fine to a starting role with AI, IMO. JJ would be the guy who would have the toughest time. AI running the break with Josh Smith would be a boon for the young forward. Zaza would be able to up his offensive rebounding numbers as well. I'm not a huge AI fan but we would get such a windfall from that trade on the court and in the frontoffice that I'd definitely take the risk and do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 AI would ruin Smith if we retained JJ...and trading Smith won't work (no one would pair him with Iggy in my estimation). I love the trade/idea (yes, even with the inherent risk of taking on AI), but I simply don't know what we could offer them: Lue, Harrington, JSmith, Delk...works. But would Philly actually do that with an aging Webber (it'd mean realization that they're rebuilding to a degree). Two slam dunk champions (yes, I'm saying Iggy won this past one, as he truly did) is not enough for the fans in Philly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted February 22, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 that could be worth what A.I is, period. Besides, he is not their problem. Not even close. He's the hardest working guy on the court every night. They'd be stupid to deal him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyDC Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 AI is not our problem. They rip him so hard here on talk radio, it is like they dont even watch how bad the players are playing. (besides CWebb and Iggy) any AI trade would be dumb. # 1 pick (which was Brad Daugherty)for Roy hinson dumb, taking shanw bradley over Penny dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seano Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Diesel, may I *never* again hear you dissing other Hawks fans for coming up with fantasy trades for the sake of making fantasy trades.....lest I shall have to call you an uber-hypocrite and quite possibly feel the need to get medieval on yo ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannes3000 Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Here's another tidbit taken from ESPN: "And perhaps the juiciest nugget, literally and figuratively, comes from my ESPN The Magazine colleague Ric Bucher. I wrote Friday in our blog from All-Star Weekend that the Sixers, if not actively shopping Allen Iverson, were indeed exploring their Iverson options before the deadline. Bucher took it a (big) step further on Tuesday night's NBA Coast to Coast on ESPN2 when he reported that the Nuggets tried to acquire Iverson with a package built around Nene and Watson (and presumably including draft picks as well). The Sixers briefly considered it, Buch says, before declining." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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