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Denver Nuggets guard Julius Hodge was shot and wounded early Saturday while driving on a highway, authorities said.

The team said he is in fair condition and is expected to make a full recovery. Sheriff's deputies said the 22-year-old player was struck in his lower body.

"The preliminary reports are that he's going to be fine. He should be able to play again in two to three weeks,'' Nuggets coach George Karl said.

Hodge was on Interstate 76 in north Denver at about 2 a.m. when another vehicle pulled alongside and someone inside fired several shots, some of which hit Hodge, Adams County Sheriff's Sgt. Louis Dixon said. He declined to say how many shots were fired.

A passenger in Hodge's vehicle flagged down another motorist, who took Hodge and the passenger to a hospital.

Dixon said authorities do not know the name of the motorist who stopped. He said investigators hope that motorist and any witnesses would come forward.

Dixon said Hodge's passenger has been interviewed and is not a suspect. He declined to release the passenger's name and would not say what kind of vehicle Hodge was driving.

The mood was quiet at a Nuggets shootaround before Saturday night's game against Golden State in Denver.

"There was a bit of trauma hitting us this morning. We were really solemn, crying,'' Karl said. "Right now we are just happy that everything is OK.''

Nuggets general manager Kiki Vandeweghe said the team had little information on the shooting.

"First and foremost, our primary concern is Julius' health,'' he said.

Hodge was Denver's first-round draft choice in 2005 out of North Carolina State. The 6-foot-7 guard was recalled from the NBA's developmental league last month after Earl Boykins broke his hand. He has appeared in 14 games for the Nuggets this season, averaging 0.9 points in 2.4 minutes.


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Is it really surprising to hear about NBA players or any high profile athelete anymore being involved in drama like this when they are out at wee hours of the morning when they should be in a hotel or at home? What is he doing out that late? I know he's an adult and can thus do whatever he wants but come on. Everytime we hear about an athelete being in a situation like this, it's always late late late. It's also why the NBA is viewed by many as a league of thugs. How many NBA players have been involved just in the past two years in acts of violence (whether they're the victim or not)? He should have been in a room somewhere sleeping or getting ready for his next days work. I'm also willing to bet that it wasn't just random. Was he clubbing earlier and got into an altercation that led to this? It's too improper to say for sure right now but I'm quite certain it had something to do with being out that late and being around the wrong crowd. What's the old saying? Nothing good happens after midnight or something like that?

Okay...I'll take my beating now for those who want to call me anything but a child of God.

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Did you just manage to blame this on Julius Hodge? I am in a state of shock. The guy got shot. This is America, being a pro basketball player doesn't place a curfew on him, or anyone else, for that matter. Get a grip on your ego and think about what you just wrote. The man got shot for crying out loud.

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I would expect that type of mindless response from someone who doesn't want to even entertain the point I was trying to make. What I was saying and it turns out to be true(I had no idea when I wrote my statement that he actually was clubbing) was that he was out later than he should have been for a guy supposed to be establishing a career as an athlete during the season. When these guys are out late and partying, it is not surprising when something like this happens. It is not surprising because it happens too often. I never said he caused himself to be shot but merely put himself into a situation that as history shows, often ends up in violence...that is a professional athlete(particularly an NBA athlete) being out late clubbing during the season.

Since my first conjecture turned out to be true, I'll piss you off even more and say that there probably, again probably, was an incident at that club involving the guy or guys who shot him. Was it provoked by Hodge and his, uh-oh here we go, POSSE!! The chances are high that it was something just like that. A bunch of dudes trying to be the biggest and baddest on the scene and what do you know...someone gets the feeling they've been dissed and out come the guns. It's all too predictable is my point. I do realize that it is possible that Hodge and his buddies were behaving like adults. However, be in bed asleep where you should be during the season at 2:00am and none of this happens. It's really that simple.

If you are trying to say I think he deserved to be shot you are wrong. If you are trying to say I don't care that he was shot, you are again wrong. I just don't feel quite as sympathetic as most here will because when you choose to be out late clubbing at 2:00am on a Saturday night during the season, bad things are more likely to happen. Hodge did make a choice to be at this club that late when he should have been long gone. But I guess deciding to keep a low-profile and get some sleep so that you'll be ready for work the next day wouldn't be keeping it real huh?

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Okay...I'll take my beating now for those who want to call me anything but a child of God.


I don't know what religion has to do with any of this, and I'm not religious, but I hope you don't claim to be a follower of the "judge not lest ye be judged" religion otherwise you are a major hypocrite

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I just think that the shooting was a product of poor judgement on Hodge's behalf. Wrong place, wrong time. Hopefully he will learn from this horrible thing, re-evaluate what he needs to do to keep himself out of harms way and the nbdl...

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This reminds me of listening to Tony Kornheiser before he was doing PTI. Somethings similar went down where a player got robbed outside of a strip club. Tony was like, "How come you never hear things like this happening outside of the library?"

It cracked me up, but he was right. More likely for stuff to go down in the middle of the night near a strip club.

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Okay...I'll take my beating now for those who want to call me anything but a child of God.


I don't know what religion has to do with any of this, and I'm not religious, but I hope you don't claim to be a follower of the "judge not lest ye be judged" religion otherwise you are a major hypocrite


The "child of God" thing was just an expression. Not sure if you're trying to be serious or just reaching to take a cheap shot at me. As for judging, we all judge. Every day we judge. I have no religious inclination to stop doing so. If you say you never judge, it's just denial to make yourself feel better.

As for the Duke lacrosse team. The only thing I have to say about that is I hope the 3 bastards who raped that girl get the same treatment every night they spend in jail. It's too different a situation to compare it to Hodge.

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Just a question. How do you guys feel about the Duke Lacrosss players and their situation. Do you think it was their fault? Where you suprised that it happened since they were also out late?


Race has nothing to do with my opinion of the Hodge situation,or my opinion of the Duke situation. Sorry to disappoint, but I think that pretty much answers your question right?

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Innocent until proven guilty. It looks like my suspicions will be confirmed and DNA evidence will clear the lacrosse players. Also, time-stamped photos of the girl already beaten up and wasted before she even arrived at the party will also bolster their defense. Once again Eddielives, you seem to compose your posts with equal parts arrogance and ignorance.

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Innocent until proven guilty. It looks like my suspicions will be confirmed and DNA evidence will clear the lacrosse players. Also, time-stamped photos of the girl already beaten up and wasted before she even arrived at the party will also bolster their defense. Once again Eddielives, you seem to compose your posts with equal parts arrogance and ignorance.


You call yourself super and I'm arrogant. Well, I may come off as arrogant to you SUPER but you are the one who resorted to childish namecalling. Sounds like you just can't handle opposing viewpoints. I can handle you calling me childish names without attacking you.

As for Duke, if evidence arises that this girl is lying, then she should be justly punished under the law. Honestly, I haven't been keeping a close eye on what is going on recently with that story. If I am behind on certain facts that have come out, you could be a grown up and simply point them out SUPER. Nowhere in my statements did I say that the lacrosse players did rape her. I simply said that if she was raped by 3 of them of as she claimed, then the people who did it should suffer greatly. How is that ignorant?

Plus, why did the entire team collectivly snub investigative efforts to get to the bottom of this story sooner? Duke and this lacrosse team made it real hard in the beginning to believe they were not covering up something by being so uncooperative with investigators. So I was consistent with what I knew to be true. No ignorance and maybe some arrogance but hey, deal with it.

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Yeah that answers my question. I'll believe it if you say it. I just found it strange that you automatically think that he was at the wrong place at the wrong time or used poor judgement. He got shot driving on the highway. Who's to say what type of place he was at. He could have been at a club like American Pie, which is something of a mixed type of atmosphere is Sandy Springs(probably like one of those college clubs you have in Gainsville.) Definately a place I would't call the wrong place, but like I said before if you say it then I'll take your word for it.

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Nowhere in your statements did you say that they did rape her???

Here is a quote: "The only thing I have to say about that is I hope the 3 bastards who raped that girl get the same treatment every night they spend in jail. It's too different a situation to compare it to Hodge."

Sounds like you said it right there, "the three bastards who raped that girl." Once again, not thinking before speaking. You admit you aren't following the story, then why are you posting your conclusions about the case and wasting everyone's time.

As far as the name calling, i referred to your posts as arrogant and ignorant, nowhere did I specifically call you anything derogatory. I didn't mean it as an ad hominem attack, and if it was construed so, i apologize.

However, now that you have insulted my sn (btw, an inside joke with some of my friends, not cocky or arrogant in the least), I will go ahead and say it, get off your lazy @$$ and finish those last three years of high school before you post again. Best regards.

Oh and here is a link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2404002

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Mann. Once again I keep my cool and you are calling me childish. Finish high school and the cussing. You apologize and then go on a tirade. I hope you are on meds to control your anger.

Okay, one last attempt at getting through to you here. You can look at closely at my statement as you want. Nowhere did I say the lacrosse players raped her. I said generally that the the BASTARDS who raped her get what they deserve. Is the Duke lacrosse team called the Duke bastards? It's obvious I've struck a cord with you and you've taken some things I've said personally. Maybe you have roots with Duke or something. Either way you should really stop being so angry with those who disagree with you. Emotions always get in the way of rational thinking. Plus, you're taking years off your life if you let people get under your skin so easily. Stress kills.

Oh yeah, finished high school and college over a decade ago. Working and taking care of my family now. I'm willing to bet you're in college now and think you know everything(like most college kids). If I'm wrong about that, then I'll admit it. I may be more confident in my convictions than you like but I'll admit when I'm wrong. Can you?

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Um...

"As for the Duke lacrosse team. The only thing I have to say about that is I hope the 3 bastards who raped that girl get the same treatment every night they spend in jail. It's too different a situation to compare it to Hodge."

The only thing I have to say about THAT. The "that" applies to the previous sentence, "As for the Duke Lacrosse team." Although, you should have used a comma, the implied statement should be rather obvious to someone out of college and supporting their family. Maybe it wasn't stated explicity, but, come on, your intent was pretty clear, there was nothing general about it. As far as my medication, age, education, experience, family life, and stress: they are none of your business.

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Allright, I'm going to concede to you that I did not separate the two thoughts well. The subject of my response concerning the team was that I didn't think it applied to what was going on with Hodge as the other guy implied it might. Saying who raped that girl, if she was raped, should be punished was just a general statement. Again, you're right as far as my grammar leading to my statement being unclear and easily confused.

Still it doesn't negate the fact that the University was not being cooperative from the beginning. Nor does the DNA evidence completely dismiss the allegation that this girl was raped by someone at that party. If she filed a false police report, she should be given the same sentence that could have been given the players.

As for our little tat for tat, you give me no reason to believe you can handle yourself like a gentleman. From your first response, you have been condescending towards me. If I disagree strongly with someone, I engage them by asking them to defend their statement. I don't disagree and say their posts are arrogant and ignorant. Then I don't proceed to cuss at them and call them lazy. I also don't tell them they need to go finish high school. In other words, I keep my emotions in check until because I've learned you have to. So be smug if you will. Move to San Fran and you'll fit right in.

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