Murat Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Look at the Lebron against the Celtics tonight 2-18 and 10 turnovers. He has more support, more depth and almost everyone can shoot except Varejo. If Joe had Szercbiak, Gibson, Big Z or even Damon Jones we would have won one at Boston at least once. As of right now the "pure" all around SG in order: Kobe Bryant Lebron Joe Johnson Iverson Ginobili Tmac Redd Carter and so on... Joe is the second best defender after Kobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I think he's a top 5 SG,but idk about 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalamchops Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 JJ is NOT better than Lebron, even though i hate LBJ with a passion. Even great players have off games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murat Posted May 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: JJ is NOT better than Lebron, even though i hate LBJ with a passion. Even great players have off games. Joe is 3rd after Kobe and Lebron. I think that's about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwell Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 he said Joe was the 2nd best defender not 2nd best SG.and LeBron plays SF doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Joe is not better than Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seano Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Joe is a great player, and this post-season elevated his status even more. You won't find a basketball fan in America that doesn't respect his game. He's definitely a top 3 in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I agree with that. As much as I love Joe a healthy Wade is a little better player but it's pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: Look at the Lebron against the Celtics tonight 2-18 and 10 turnovers. He has more support, more depth and almost everyone can shoot except Varejo. If Joe had Szercbiak, Gibson, Big Z or even Damon Jones we would have won one at Boston at least once. As of right now the "pure" all around SG in order: Kobe Bryant Lebron Joe Johnson Iverson Ginobili Tmac Redd Carter and so on... Joe is the second best defender after Kobe. Miichael Finley good, in and between 2nd and 3th tier throughout the prime of his career. Better then Redd and Gino, but not better then T-Mac and will never get to A.I., Kobe, or Wade level. There's a glass ceiling and it's blocking him from achieving that feat. T-Mac in the playoffs is elite, but during the reg. season is more 2nd tier since the back injuries. Bron is a Forward.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: I agree with that. As much as I love Joe a healthy Wade is a little better player but it's pretty close. Wade healthy is much better then Joe and you know that too. Wade injured is better then J.J. Wade has elite talent, when has J.J. had elite anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: he said Joe was the 2nd best defender not 2nd best SG.and LeBron plays SF doesn't he? He just listed them in order as far as "pure" SG's & put JJ second...then after that he said that he was the 2nd best defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Those two are a lot closer than you think. What Wade does with his drives to the basket, Joe offsets with his much better perimeter skills. Both are great all around guards, but Joe is the better shooter while Wade is better at getting to the free throw line. Both are better than Tracy McGrady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I think Tmac's bad back is destroying his career. What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Yes,at this point and time now JJ is better than T Mac i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 On the other hand, his team won 50+ games in a tougher conference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: On the other hand, his team won 50+ games in a tougher conference... +He lead his team to 22 strait wins,but hey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: Those two are a lot closer than you think. What Wade does with his drives to the basket, Joe offsets with his much better perimeter skills. Both are great all around guards, but Joe is the better shooter while Wade is better at getting to the free throw line. Both are better than Tracy McGrady. Closer, are you kidding me, Wade can score at will, JJ can't. Wade off ball defense is one of the best in league..... Wade is a much better ball handler.... Wade with a solid cast is down right unstoppable. A season with NBDL duds and now he close to Joe Johnson, lol. Just last year he was better then Lebron. What next season, Zaza will be close to him. Miami had zero post players this season, Shaq didn't want to play hard and he was hurt. Wade was tired from Team USA and on a inland by himself with the Heat. Not the easiest job in professional sports. Wade mid-range game is elite..... Wade dribble drive is the best in the NBA.... His balance is better then MJ's, his quickness is currently the best in the league and your saying he's close to JJ. What has JJ did to ever be on his level. He could CARRY teams with less then JJ and won A LOT more then 37 games which were in large part due to finally having a post player which lead us at the end. JJ is a good scorer, Wade is a elite scorer. Only on this message board would this even be questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: Quote: Those two are a lot closer than you think. What Wade does with his drives to the basket, Joe offsets with his much better perimeter skills. Both are great all around guards, but Joe is the better shooter while Wade is better at getting to the free throw line. Both are better than Tracy McGrady. Closer, are you kidding me, Wade can score at will, JJ can't. Wade off ball defense is one of the best in league..... Wade is a much better ball handler.... Wade with a solid cast is down right unstoppable. A season with NBDL duds and now he close to Joe Johnson, lol. Just last year he was better then Lebron. What next season, Zaza will be close to him. Miami had zero post players this season, Shaq didn't want to play hard and he was hurt. Wade was tired from Team USA and on a inland by himself with the Heat. Not the easiest job in professional sports. Wade mid-range game is elite..... Wade dribble drive is the best in the NBA.... His balance is better then MJ's, his quickness is currently the best in the league and your saying he's close to JJ. What has JJ did to ever be on his level. He could CARRY teams with less then JJ and won A LOT more then 37 games which were in large part due to finally having a post player which lead us at the end. JJ is a good scorer, Wade is a elite scorer. Only on this message board would this even be questioned. lol yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murat Posted May 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: Joe is not better than Wade. I forgot Wade, he didn't play that much this season so i forgot about him. But Joe is better than Tmac right now. Houston has some really good role and experienced players. We are just as talented as they are without Yao, but they are a better team than us and have a better coach. Alston Scola Laundry Hayes Battier Mutombo Tmac Yao Head Jackson They have a 10 man rotation. Chill Zaza Law Salim West Solo Richardson They are waaaaaay deeper than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murat Posted May 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Quote: Zaza Law Salim West Solo Richardson Holy sh!t after looking at this i realize how sorry our bench is. Other than Chill and maybe Law everyone should be in NBDL right now. Zaza should be playing eurobasket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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