KB21 Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Reports are saying that Terry Stotts and Terry Porter are the two leading candidates to get the Milwaukee Bucks head coaching job with Marc Iavaroni a strong candidate as well. I believe that once this decision is made, the Hawks will go after George Karl. Unlike what many want to believe, David McDavid and Billy Knight have every intention of making the playoffs this season with a core of Jason Terry, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, and Theo Ratliff. They are going after an established head coach, and Karl just happens to be a big name, established head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeddelong Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I tend to agree with you. McDavid has to see the team as an investment, and a big name coach is an easy way to get people excited in Atlanta (even if it may not mean as much as adding a superstar to the team). Atlanta has always been attracted to stars and the symbolism of signing karl would be the first good move from an investment stand point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I think that Theo is an overrated player.Is he really better than a Keon Clark?I'd like to know anything that Theo really does better. I say we put a package together for Theo and move him for a good swingman and and sign a backup big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Why do you think that Theo has been an All-Star and starts for his team at center every year and Keon has never been a starter? Sure Keon has spurts where he looks really good, but he cant do it night in and night out every year like Theo can. Believe me if he could then he would be a hot commodity and would be starting for some team. Also, if he was such a great player dont you think that they would have taken his FA option this year and tested the waters with so many teams having so much money? He is not in the same league as Theo as a starting center in this league, not by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 "Why do you think that Theo has been an All-Star" BJ Armstrong and Chris Gatling made the allstar team once....It was a mistake that he was an allstar.[censored], Michael Adams made the allstar team once! It isn't hard at all to topple Theo's lousy production of 7PPG 7RPG 3BPG.Keon could do that much in 31MPG.Not to mention Theo is an average one on one defender at best.He gives up rebounding position to block shots. Guys like Keon and Ben Wallace don't have to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 If he could, then why isn't he? And Theo is a great one on one defender. I guess you missed him guarding Tracy McGrady one on one on the perimeter last year. The only time Theo struggles defensively is when he goes against a player of Shaq's size. It amazes me how much crap some of you can make up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Amen to that. Thats like saying Reef could average 25/10 every year.......well sure some of us believe he could do it, but he hasnt done it and isnt likely to do it. Theo has been a starter everywhere for his career and when he actually got to play on a defensive minded team like the Sixers with some great defensive players he was a monster. He averaged 12.5 points, 8.5 rebounds, and almost 4 blocks per game. Those are GREAT stats. Of course he will never be a guy that will average 12rpg or more, but the fact that he can guard a SF the likes of a McGrady, a PF the likes of a SAR, or any center in this league other than Shaq says a lot about him. Wow I just looked into Keons stats and his best season ever he averaged 11pg, 7.5 rebounds, and a mighty 1.5 blocks per game. So he was 1.5 points, 1 rebound, and nearly 2.5 blocks per game worse than Theo? How can that be if he is so great scrooge? Maybe he just doesnt want to do any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 And Theo is a great one on one defender. I guess you missed him guarding Tracy McGrady one on one on the perimeter last year. " I also watched Melmet Okur give him a big whipping. Keon is playing on a team with Webb/Pollard/Vlade /Funderburke.That is why he isn't currently producing those numbers.[censored],there is backups that out produce Theo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Look at MPG.Keon has never played 30MPG in a season. Theo is a overrated player.What good is a center that score or hit the boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Why is it that he has never played more than 27mpg in his career? He played on 2 teams that were desperate for a legit center (Denver and Toronto) and couldnt get off the bench to become the starter. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 He just hasnt been giving enough of a chance.Any team that has Theo has to be dissapointed with his rebounding.Why can't he atleast grab 10RPG? It's because he's a average player and not a difference maker. The team surely wasn't any better with him this season. We won 33 games without him and 35 games with him. Yeah he made a real difference.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 You cant use that arguement. If Theo had been the ONLY difference between the two teams then yeah you could say that......but the fact that we fired our coach, brought in a ball hog black hole player that doesnt play defense and lost our most promising young player to a neck injury all definitely changes the circumstances of the seasons. Oh yes Keon has just never been given a chance. Owners are loving to pay him to sit on the bench. Everyone knows its common practice to leave a superstar on the bench and not give him a chance, even when you are desperate for help at his position. That is the funniest thing I have heard you say in a while. So talking about Theo, why is it that he averages more points and more blocks than Ben Wallace, plus more points, blocks, and rebounds than Keon Clark if he is so terrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Looks look at Ben Wallace and Theo and see which one you would rather have: Theo: 8.7PPG 7.5RPG 3.2BLK 46.1%fg .69SPG Wallace 6.9PPG 15.4RPG 3.1BLK(Theo averaged .6 better) 48.1%fg 1.4SPG Theo shoots a better FT percentage and Ben collects more assist....But Neither really get to the fouline enough to make a huge difference and neither are passers so I didn't even list that. And Ben is just better built than Theo. Theo averaged .7 more blocks chasing guys down getting him out of rebounding position. IF Theo can bring his scoring backup to 13-14PPG there might be an arguement.However, I don't think it will be long before Theo is on the downside of his career. I'd be willing to put money that Keon can topple Theo in overall production if giving the same minutes.Further more, he wouldn't cost us as much as Theo eats up the Hawks cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I'm hard on the players because of the losing.They'll move up the rankings when they stop underacheving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyman3 Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 i think every team in the NBA other than the lakers would want BEN WALLACE over their own center. but the fact that their numbers are silimar (except for the rebounding) means something. Dont get me wrong, the MAN is a wonderful rebounder... but when his teammates cant rebound worth $HIT... he gets more. FOR THOSE who think that GROBs rebounds are somewhat misleading (btw - i have no opinion on that debate), then maybe RATLIFFs rebounds will get higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 That arguement doesn't hold any water.Theo didn't rebound with Detroit or Philly.Using your arguement Rodman was overrated with the Bulls because they didn't have many rebounders. All besides scoring, JT has better numbers than Ai..But he isn't even close to his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 http://espn.go.com/nba/columns/stein_marc/1589327.html In reply to: Atlanta interim coach Terry Stotts and Phoenix assistant Marc Iavaroni remain the favorites to be named Milwaukee's next coach, with a decision expected this week after Sen. Herb Kohl -- who already knows Stotts from his time as a Bucks assistant -- takes a weekend away from his duties in Washington to interview finalists. We'd love to tell you what the Hawks will do if Stotts gets the Milwaukee job, but we'd also love to bank a dime for every time we've heard that prospective owner David McDavid's purchase of the team is close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted August 4, 2003 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 It's possible that AOL will put an end to the deal. I mean, days go by the team is in limbo, McDavid hasn't come up with the expected capital. AOL can pay Knight to gut the team, start over with a cheaper version and say good by to McDavid. That would make the franchise some money. McDavid is doing nothing to help this franchise right now. We will lose out on Stotts... and JT might be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 He.ll, honestly i wouldn't mind having terry porter here.. not sure if he's ready for a head job yet but he could be the next young player to coach that could be good in my opinion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzachary Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Haha, "young" and "Terry Porter" should never be in the same sentence. He's at least 78 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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